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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Дисней Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the день pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, или what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Дисней Princess, i.e. no formal платье, бальное платье and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps еще realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then Ты check out the DP club on Fanpop, and Ты find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The Источник of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that Ты find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Дисней Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced или too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is еще critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does Показать a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, или how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often сказал(-а) that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, или impossibly positive. We need something еще convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Дисней Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Дисней poking fun at itself, but it can rub Фаны the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down by the Название of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal Название или other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The еще I think about it, the еще I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, Ты don't need to be a princess to save the день или to be someone important или worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, Ты think you're better than the Дисней Princesses, is that right?" или "Yeah, the princess Название is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then Показать us that сказал(-а) character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their Последнее Видео and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Дисней heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why Фаны can have such opposing Просмотры on other characters, like Ariel или Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued by other fans.
"An adventure? How?" жасмин asked.
"It's easy, we just pack up, and go out there to find those villains!" Belle said.
"Yeah, but they could be anywhere." Rapunzel has buried herself in her hair by now.
"That's why we gotta go find'em! Listen t' that lass, she's right!" Merida said.
"Yeah, but how? They could be in any of our 11 movies." Snow White said.
"Exactly," Rapunzel сказал(-а) from under her hair.
"All th' еще reason to go find'em." Merida сказал(-а) "C'mon, girls! Let's pack up for an adventure!"
"I'll pack the food!" Tiana offered.
"I'll pack our clothes." Золушка said.
"Oh, I'll pack the cutlery!"...
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 I am Merida, and I'll be shooting for my own hand!
I am Merida, and I'll be shooting for my own hand!
10. Aurora
Merida just wouldn't understand why Aurora obeys authority and is respectful, instead of opposing everyone around her. She would find Aurora boring and too girly, always Мечты about men in her dreams. Aurora is exactly the type of person Merida doesn't want to be. Aurora put her duty first before her own pleasures, and Merida wants to gain her freedom. She wouldn't see Aurora's actions in a positive light and will find her too inactive and passive.

9. Cinderella
Merida would misjudge Золушка immediately as a doormat who has no backbone. She wouldn't get why she never stands...
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Okay first of all can we all agree before I start this Статья that none of them would make Great Parents they all be okay parents? Good now here we go.

10: Pocahontas and John Smith

Like a lot of people сказал(-а) about this couple, they aren't ready to settle down and if they did they may fight over who's turn it is to take care of the baby. Don't worry those they had baby backpacks back then so they can go cliff diving.

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"I don't see either of them as ready to settle down." AudreyFreak

"Since this is about the couple, thy have to CO-Parent, and on that aspect, these two lack. They have completely...
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posted by MaidofOrleans
I've been absent from Fanpop for a while due to the end of school, but I'm back! And I figured it was about time I wrote another article. So after wanting to watch it for YEARS, I finally got around to watching Hercules. I know it's not officially a DP movie, but I've heard it mentioned a lot on here and I wanted to share my opinion of it.

Overall Impression
Fun to watch! A bit cheesy as Дисней Фильмы go, but still a good story. It was an interesting take on the original legend, and though they changed a lot I found that I was still able to lose myself in Disney's version. I liked most of the...
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1.Giselle

From Enchanted

Reasons For Liking:
Giselle always remained my Избранное Дисней princess. I just Любовь how she believes in herself and follows her own path without letting anyone stop her. I Любовь her for knowing that True Love and Happy Endings exist.

2.Cinderella

From Cinderella 1-2

Reasons For Liking:
Cinderella is one of the most prettiest Дисней princess I ever set eyes on. She is a princess who is really kind to others and does not have a сердце to deny good words. I liked her story she played on her movies.

3.Rapunzel

From Tangled 1-2

Reasons For Liking:
This sweet princess can never stay...
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posted by mhs1025
6.Jasmine-I started warming up to her when I first started watching the Аладдин TV series. She's very independent and wants to find what's out there in the outside world. She feels like she's been trapped in a cage and I can totally relate to her on that! She has alot of faith in Аладдин in the sequels. Speaking of the sequels, to be honest with you, I think Liz Calaway is the better Пение voice for her than Lea Solonga. Call me whatever the f*** Ты want, but that's what I think. Another thing-I wish that they'd include in LOADS of the merchandise like they used to! Though I wish Pocahontas...
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 the spoiled but sweet Southern beauty
the spoiled but sweet Southern beauty
I saw one made for Nakoma, a nondisney girl, so I thought I would do one on шарлотка, шарлотта who is not only my Избранное princess (yes I do consider her one, even if she isnt in the toys and stuff) but my Избранное Дисней female ever! =D this is all just my opinion. here is why I Любовь her!!

1. She's hilarious.

everyone who likes шарлотка, шарлотта always talks about how funny she is and its true- she is the funniest character in the movie! she is very lighthearted and makes the funniest faces. she is so energetic and driven and it makes for a really funny character Далее to serious Tiana.

2. She's generous.

I know...
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Since I am trying to make the Princess Of The месяц еще popular, this is another one of my ideas. In the end of each месяц I'll post articles, based on the countdowns for songs, hairstyles and outfits. There everybody will have the chance to discuss whether they agree with the results, what corresponded to their expectations, and what they wish would have been different!

I was recently informed that the problem with the pictures in the Статьи is gone, and now the pictures can be put inside the text. However, I'm going to continue using mainly pictures for my articles, because first of all, that's what I've been doing for the rest of the Статьи from these series, and second, I like this way of doing articles! So maybe at some point I will switch back to the explanatory and sophisticated words articles, but for the time being I will stick to my picture articles!


Here are the results of the POTM Hairstyles Countdown: ~*Snow White*~ (April 2013)! Enjoy and share your opinion!
 "I like the blue one more." - tiffany88
"I like the blue one more." - tiffany88
 "The red bow completes her perfectly." - CodyVenusTrent
"The red bow completes her perfectly." - CodyVenusTrent
posted by GreatLance_30
 Belle
Belle
Hi! Here is another Статья for Belle, I wrote this because I want to be clear in my opinion for her! Belle is my Избранное Дисней Princess and I really Любовь her! Ты wanna know why? Read the following qualities that made her my favorite...

1. Looks
I always put looks for the princesses, because I believe that a person's outside look affects much on impressions. So, not being biased but she is my prettiest Дисней Princess. Some people сказал(-а) she is plain, that she is only pretty in few shots, well I disagree. Belle is gorgeous! Her hazel eyes are so tantalizing, her hair is brilliant, her nose is...
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 One King to rule the all
One King to rule the all
So did a countdown for best ruler for the princesses and the princes. All around at the end of the film the princes change (sometimes еще than the princesses) and so some could be better rulers than others. Now time for the rankings.

10: Naveen
 The Frog Prince
The Frog Prince

I know Naveen was going go out first because of being the prince that got kicked out of his kingdom. Everyone сказал(-а) he just get bored and leave the palace to go play ukulele. But now that he’s with Tiana he may be a better ruler.
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"He'd be too preoccupied with the fun part of life, to actually pay attention to his duties...
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So, I did a countdown and a reverse count down Опросы to see if the results would be the same. Well....... just read to find out.

Here is how the accuracy results work. If Ты are 11 on the Reverse Countdown, they receive 1 point, since they are the least disliked, but if they are 1st on the Reverse Countdown, Ты receive 11 points since they are the most disliked. After the results, I'll add up the total results to find out who is the actual favorite.

Reverse Countdown Results/ Countdown Results

1. Flynn(+10 points)/Charming (+1 point)
Since his debut in late 2010, he took Aladdin's spot as...
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So, I did a countdown and a reverse count down Опросы to see if the results would be the same. Well....... just read to find out.

Here is how the accuracy results work. If Ты are 11 on the Reverse Countdown, they receive 1 point, since they are the least disliked, but if they are 1st on the Reverse Countdown, Ты receive 11 points since they are the most disliked. After the results, I'll add up the total results to find out who is the actual favorite.

Reverse Countdown Results/ Countdown Results

1. Belle (+11 point)/Merida (+1 points)
I found this strange, because Мулан won the Назад countdown...
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 The princesses are just a ploy, we'ere the stars!
The princesses are just a ploy, we'ere the stars!
Ahh, villains. Villains are usually my секунда Избранное part of a Дисней princess movie, секунда to the princesses of coarse. Дисней sure does know how to make good, and interesting villains and this Список will express my favorites. So yeah, let's just get started!

10. Radcliffe

If Ты were stupid enough to think he wasn't going here, then I don't even know. (Sorry if I offended you, he's just so terrible IMO) He's the worst part of Pocahontas by far. He's just so bad it's painful, and not bad in the cool villain sorta way. He never even interacted with Poca, he was just some pathetic old man who...
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I held a countdown if who would Snow White liked the most, and to e honest, the results were not suprising at all. Here are the results and what people had to say. This countdown was held before Merida was official, so she is not on here.

9. жасмин

This was definitely the most obvious choice for Snow White's least favourite princess. They are opposite in almost every single way; Snow is innocent, жасмин is not. Snow is calm and reserved, while жасмин is loud and aggressive. Snow White would not like или understand Jasmine's harsh and flirty behaviour, while жасмин would be annoyed by...
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 I didn't know what to put here...
I didn't know what to put here...
Hello! Thanks for bothering to click on my Статья : ) I’ve been on the spot for a couple of months now and I think it’s time that I write an article. I’ve only every written one Статья before this, so forgive me if it’s not that good. I hope that Ты enjoy it. I just have to say that I like each of the princesses, and I’ve written why I like and dislike each of them. This is my opinion so please respect it, I don’t really like getting rude или nasty Ответы (I end up crying so please don’t drive me to that) but constructive criticism is most definitely welcome and your very free...
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 The Queen should've seen these other girls, she would've had a fit!
The queen should've seen these other girls, she would've had a fit!
This Список is so hard because every princess is unique and pretty in their own way. Also, I still haven't really figured out how to add pictures, so please don't hold it against me!

10. Snow White

Aww, Snow! I really didn't want to put her last. She is just so sweet looking and it's just so perfect! I feel like her looks match her personality 100%. Sadly, compared to the other princesses she just doesn't do anything for me....but I'm sure if we'd come back to her in two или three years after she's matured she'd be beautiful.

9. Tiana

I really Любовь Tiana! On the surface she looks really good, but...
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 Other than Mulan's dress being in a different color these are the Обои I'll be using for this Статья
Other than Mulan's dress being in a different color these are the images I'll be using for this article
Compared to most of Ты I Любовь ALL of the redesigns of the princesses, but I do have a Список of the best redesigns too so here's my Список :)

10. Cinderella

When I first saw this redesign I was thinking "Is this Cinderella?", I mean look at her, how many similarities can Ты find between the way she looked in the movie to this design? Only a few I guess, but that doesn't stop me from loving this redesign, the hairstyle is a HUGE improvement from the awful bun she had before, the dress is very pretty, but like most other people I think she looks almost too much like Barbie, but not to an extent...
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 hips are way to hipster, so is a good personality, songs, a man.....
hips are way to hipster, so is a good personality, songs, a man.....
I think we all know that hips don't lie. They clearly will Показать Ты a good princess from a bad one. I for one, really think hips deserve еще recognition because they make или break a princess. So yeah, let's start with the hip mania. *I'd leave now, this Статьи gonna be pretty intense*

10. Ariel

Ariel's hips are the biggest liars I've ever met! They walk in like, whaddup I got some big scales, and walks out with human hips. (Did Ты see that pop culture reference, I'm like the movie Hercules) It's like, whoa. What. Just. Happened. I'm just gonna stop right here because Ariel's hips are almost...
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posted by dimitri_is_hot
Another super short article, sorry if Ты find it uninteresting lol.



Best Дисней Prince Hair
1. Flynn
2. Phillip
3. Naveen
4. John Smith
5. Aladdin
6. Prince
7. Eric
8. Adam
9. Shang
10. Charming




10. жасмин - high ponytail
It might be a little too much but I still Любовь it.


9. Snow White - with red bow
It looks adorable and it matches with her red lips


8. Tiana - bun with white veil and tiara
It looks beautiful and it's unique!


7. Ariel - loose
I Любовь her hair underwater, it looks amazing.


6. Belle - half updo
It's really elegant and unique, I Любовь it!


5. жасмин - loose
I wish I had...
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Quick descriptions for each placements. Hopefully it doesn't confuse you, tell me if so, I'll never do this again. If it's fine then I invite Ты to do this type of article.




10th Movie: Pocahontas
I have so many issues with this movie, I just cannot ignore the flaws. Though I Любовь the animation, the score and the ending.

10th Princess: Aurora
Poor Aurora, I like her but her lack of screen time always puts her in disadvantage.

10th Prettiest: Snow White
Perhaps if she was older, she'd rank up but I'm just not a Фан of her look to be honest. Though her lips are lovely.





9th Movie: Snow White and...
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