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Stop mistreating Twilight fans!

I find it unfair that a lot, on this spot especially, Twilight Фаны like me are mistreated and bullied. We are stereotyped as "brainless prep fangirls, whose opinions arn't worth dirt" (that quote actually comming from a HP Фан who is a member of this spot)

It offends me that people assume that I'm not intelligent, just because I'm a Twilight fan. I'm not stupid, I'm actually a straight A student and in honnors club at my school.

And I'm not saying all Harry Potter Фаны do this. Only some. My best friend on Fanpop is a HP fan, and she respects my opinion.

So please, anti-twilight fans, say what Ты want about Twilight, but leave us Фаны alone. We did nothing to you.
 Gaga_fanatic posted Больше года
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KateKicksAss said:
I agree that we should NOT stereotype like that. Just because SOME Twilight Фаны act and talk like idiots is no reason to lump them together with the intelligent ones and call Ты all stupid.

I 100% agree. We should treat each other with respect, even if we have different opinions and all. Only if we deserve respect though, XD.

And look, Voldemort wants the abuse to stop!! See picture.
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 I agree that we should NOT stereotype like that. Just because SOME Twilight Фаны act and talk like idiots is no reason to lump them together with the intelligent ones and call Ты all stupid. I 100% agree. We should treat each other with respect, even if we have different opinions and all. Only if we deserve respect though, XD. And look, Voldemort wants the abuse to stop!! See picture.
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No he doesn't, I just asked Lexa, she's issued an order that all Twihards must be Imperiod into having good taste :)
Bellatrix-Black posted Больше года
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LOL I agree! and Bellatrix-Black, how immature.
Gaga_fanatic posted Больше года
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Trix, I was just joking...I only want to Imperio the illiterate Twihards. the sensible ones are nice :)
Lord-Voldemort posted Больше года
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PotterForever said:
We don't Nobody bullies Twilight Фаны simply because they are Twilight fans, there are several Twilight Фаны on this spot, as well as people who are Фаны of both that we respect. Why? Because they aren't brats about it. They don't say OMG TWILIGHT IS SO MUCH BETTER CUZ EDDY IS SO HAWT HP SUX!!!!!!!!! It's the Twiligt Фаны who are rabid, and obsessive who we have a problem with. I cetaintly don't think all Twilight Фаны are dumb, I'm sure there are many perfectly intelligent Twi-fans out there. It's those lunatic fangirls, commonly refered to as "twitards," people have a problem with.
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Thank Ты for understanding. And I'm not a "fangirl", I promise.
Gaga_fanatic posted Больше года
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I'm a Twilight Фан and I'm also an HP Фан as well.
Renarimae posted Больше года
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thats what I was trying to get at
zanhar1 posted Больше года
MissKnowItAll said:
I'm sorry Ты feel that way- I doubt anyone meant to make Ты upset. Who was it that сказал(-а) that?

Most of us do not assume people are stupid because they like Twilight- the majority of people in my Set 1 class at school Любовь it. Again, I'm sorry Ты feel like that, but something tells me Ты may be misinterpreting things.

I also have a problem on this topic. It annoys me greatly when Twi-fans Присоединиться this spot, start an argument and then complain when Harry Potter Фаны respond angrily. The way I see it, anyone who starts a Дебаты has no right to complain if the Дебаты annoys them, unless it gets personal. And, in the 9 months I've been fanpopping, it never has. Before Ты complain, check again, because most of the time people are just over sensitive.

PS: Actually, the abuse I've seen directed at Harry Potter Фаны или Anti-s is shocking. Just a few months ago, we were told to burn in hell. If we count Twilight Фаны on one side, and Anti-s on the other, Twilight Фаны have done a lot!
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ronald_weasley said:
ur getting insulted that harry potter Фаны call twilight Фаны "brainless" but what about all the times when twilight Фаны call harry potter Фаны nerds, bitches, gay, sluts etc.

it's really annoying when twilight Фаны don't think about the times thay insulted us before they start complaining and calling us bullies

i don't mean to seem rude but i've never insulted a twilight Фан in my life and i think its unfair that people start blaming all harry potter Фаны for insulting them
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KatyLautner said:
I agree! And I'm sorry to say but all Harry Potter Фаны ARE like this, it sucks! They need to respect Twilight and its fans. It's stupid that we're bullied just because we have good taste.
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 I agree! And I'm sorry to say but all Harry Potter Фаны ARE like this, it sucks! They need to respect Twilight and its fans. It's stupid that we're bullied just because we have good taste.
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No, not because Ты have, what Ты call "good taste," but because your "reasons" for believing it's better than HP are shallow, childish, and easily debatable.
PotterForever posted Больше года
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So..... You're saying: "All Harry Potter Фаны stereotype", is that it? A bit hypocritical aren't you?
emilyroxx posted Больше года
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Psh, yeah! I pride myself in being a total geek. And, Ты are being a hypocrite.
DrHookandCo posted Больше года
bri-marie said:
The reason Twifans get this label is because there are so many who only like Twilight because Edward is "hawt!!11" and who bash (yes, bash) Harry Potter because Harry Potter is ugly. They also bash Harry Potter, saying things like "there's no love" and "the bad guys are stupid!" without having ever read it. This is a Дебаты spot, we want to Дебаты with reasonable fans, not with shallow, mindless Twitards.

Seriously, I can count on one hand how many reasonable Twifans I've met, both in real life and here on Fanpop. Yes, we HP Фаны tend to jump the gun and assume you're all brainless, yes, it's unfair, but Twifans do the same to us.

If Ты want us to respect your opinions, rally your fellow Twifans and tell them to stop giving Ты reasonable Twifans a bad name.
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This. I would also like to add that twi-fans stop making it so easy for others to attack them. When debating HP vs. Twilight, give real reasons that Ты can back up with facts. Simply saying Twilight is better because Edward is hot, или something just as shallow will get Ты made fun of, and honestly, I can't say it's unjustified. Try and back yourselvs up with real reasons that Ты can back up with facts.
PotterForever posted Больше года
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@PotterForever: Exactly! Facts are pretty much needed when debating. @Gaga_fanatic: Most Twifans assume that we HP Фаны are atuck up snobs who've never read Twilight, will not accept that there are Книги that are better than HP, and that we don't accept any opinions that are different than that.
bri-marie posted Больше года
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Oops, forgot the Вопрос mark!
Renarimae posted Больше года
DracoLuver said:
PLEASE, for the sake of god, read the title.
Harry Potter VS. Twilight.
We are, what Ты call, DEBATING! Of course we are going to Список reasons as to why we think HP is better. It's not our fault all your reasons are shallow and unreasonable.
If Ты gained respect and actually Опубликовано real, debatable reasons, we would be very happy.
Everything we say is considered "fighting." JUst because we listed something true, doesn't mean Ты have to get butt-hurt.
Ты can find reasons to back up Twi but Ты don't.
"Edward is hot", "It's true love", that's what we get when we give Ты reasons along with huge paragraphs why!
Be a better debater and stop complaing. If Ты are hurt, get off the Дебаты and go to some "I lurve TWI!!1" spot.

I'm sorry if I sounded rude, but I find this pathetic.
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I agree with you, @Potterforever. "We're better" - why? That's right - Ты have NO REASONS!
DracoLuver posted Больше года
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Ты WERE being rude, leave Twilight Фаны alone! Just because we are better dosen't mean Ты have the right to post rude stuff!
KatyLautner posted Больше года
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*facepalm* "just because we're better then you" if your trying to make a point dont screw it up. if you're trying to prove that we're bullies dont bully us within your statement. KatyLuntner Ты are the perfect exsample of the kind of Twilight Фаны we dont like. Thank Ты for demonstrating.
zanhar1 posted Больше года
Bellatrix-Black said:
You, the straight A student, spelled honors wrong. No matter if you're in the US, UK, или Canada, "honnors" is simply incorrect :)

And as everyone else here has said, this is a "versus" spot...if Ты don't like the debate, go to the Twilight spot.
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Because, of course, it couldn't have been a simple typo, right? :)
bri-marie posted Больше года
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Of course not :)
Bellatrix-Black posted Больше года
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ZOMG U SPELLED CRITICISM RONG!!!!1 Lol... XD I had to do that....
Lord-Voldemort posted Больше года
emilyroxx said:
Um, shouldn't an honors student know how to spell honors?
And I don't think that ALL Twilight Фаны are brainless prep fangirls, I just think that MOST of them are.
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I'm fairly certain her "honnors" was a simple typo.
bri-marie posted Больше года
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yes, it was a typo,
Gaga_fanatic posted Больше года
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Alright, sorry.
emilyroxx posted Больше года
LifesGoodx3 said:
Oh gosh. Okay, here's the deal, we don't bash for the fun of it. The секунда someone says they're a Twilight fan, we don't think that person is an idiot. When someone comes to this spot and says they like Twilight better, the HP would like some reasons why they like it better. That's not bashing. This is a Дебаты spot, so if a Twilight Фан swings by (which is getting rare) we would like to spark up a debate. When the Twilight Фан Ответы "Because Edward is soooo hot nd haarry is ugly!!!!1!" THAT is the секунда we don't like that person anymore. Ты have to realize that the people that we tend to "bully" are the ones that, well, deserve it.
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I'm not mean about it, And I don't think Harry is ugly, he's actually kind of cute in my opinion, And I don't like Twilight because Edward is "hot", personally, he's not my type.
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GemonkDruid said:
O RLY? Mistreating, eh? Let's see the chart of insults I've earned from Twi-fans:

nerd (5)
сука (countless)
slut (2)
loser (3)
retard (1)
inbred (1)

So, in retrospect, Twilight Фаны can be just as bad as HP fans.

Here's a little link Ты should visit: link
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I've never called Ты или any HP Фан any of those names.
Gaga_fanatic posted Больше года
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^^^ yep agreed :)
IzzyOzera posted Больше года
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i've eard all those before, one called me a dumbass to, thats when i start to throw insults after like the 3rd time Im called a сука simply for likeing HP.
zanhar1 posted Больше года
uniquezandy said:
I Любовь both movies. I am not a crazy fangirl who gives reasons why I like it, coz the characters are hot. I like them for different reasons. And plus I am not the type 2 insult someone and mistereat coz the have a different opinion. I understand and respect it. I'm sure I am not the only one on this spot who agrees and stands in the middle coz they like both and Дебаты about it. (Ok i don't no how to make sure u understand, coz I don't no if that makes sense, the last sentence.) And plus I am not stupid just coz I like a film. I got a gd iq I guess.
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I agree.
Gaga_fanatic posted Больше года
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txs
uniquezandy posted Больше года
luv_warriorcatz said:
we do not mistreat twi-fans
we just look down on them and we think some of thm as "lowly people who can't spell"

how are we suppose to respond when a twilight Фан says "don't contradict us b/c we have good taste"
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"i luv luv luv luv luv edward"

the nicest way to respond to that wud probably be "..........."

and we don't treat all twilight Фаны lik this
we like some twilight Фаны like sapherequeen (actually thats teh only sane Фан i got)
because she an com up with reasons and she knows how to type and responds maturly
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posted Больше года 
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Ты are the most immature person ever.
KatyLautner posted Больше года
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Y'know, it gets a little old, calling the same five people immature over and over and over again.
DrHookandCo posted Больше года
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It's not even correct, she's called at least 5 people the MOST immature person. Ты have to choose one of us to be the most immature! I nominate myself :)
Lord-Voldemort posted Больше года
1-2vampire said:
Oh no, I respect people's opinions, it's my opinions of why I think there's something wrong with what they said, and I give my argument. I respect other people's opinions, as long as they respect mine. My opinion is Harry Potter is much еще intellectuality better than Twilight, planned better, every little detail has a meaning, whereas Twilight seems as if SMeyer's written notes and thrown them all together.
I know other's opinions may be different, but that is mine.
It's true, we do stereotype sometimes, but some Twilight Фаны are a bit overboard, as are Harry Potter fans, but we're not "mistreating" Twilight fans, we're mainly voicing our opinion. We are allowed to do that in a never-ending Дебаты right?
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HaleyDewit said:
I don't exactly mistreat them,but if they feel offended when I tell them their reasons about preferring Twilight over Harry Potter are invalid,like the Любовь thing или 'they're hot',than there's only so much I can do about it.I have yet to meet a Twifan who could come up with some hard evidence on why Twilight might be considered better than HP.Also,lots of Twifans write with Трофеи in the center of their words and they typ lik ties.I'm really sorry,but that makes me Вопрос their IQ.I'm not saying all Twifans are like this and I'm nice to sane fans.One of my best Друзья on Fanpop is a big Twifan.I have nothing against Twifans,but I have something against Twifans who can't come up with valid reasons on why TL is better than HP,who say TL has stuff HP hasn't when it's like the other way around,and who say 'You're stupid HP-fans have no life,you're stupid,you're immature,stick that in your сок box and suck it' when we,HP-fans,don't agree with them.They also seem to fail to Дебаты with us.And don't play all saint.You may haven't insulted a HP-fan yet,but lots of Twifans have,so don't pretend like it's all our fault.It's not our fault HP is better than Twilight and Twifans can't seem to accept that.

To all sane and friendly Twifans, I apoligize if I offended anyone.
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jaliceforever said:
yes. i agree.
but my best friend in real life is a hp fan, but she is grown up and respects my opinion too.
and i respect hp Фаны but they should respect me as a twilight Фан too.
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NataliaLidia said:
i agree. its like the hp Фаны think that because we dont like hp, were brainless. they constantly say we can hav other opinions, but as soon as we say something that goes against theirs its world war III.
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It's the other way around,too,you know.
HaleyDewit posted Больше года
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I agree with Haley. Look at Katy - everytime we say somethign true, she says, "you guys are immature!" Ты guys do have opinions, but this is a Дебаты spot and Ты need to back-up your opinions with reasons. We try being respectful, but it is EXTEREMLY tiring when we write PARAGRAPHS worth of informaton and reason, and we get "your a bitch" "immature" "so what, Eddy is hotter." Not all Фаны are like this, but half of them are on this section.
DracoLuver posted Больше года
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but Ты all started it. i fought back after being instalted first.
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ArcticWolf said:
I completely agree. I'm Team Harry Potter all the way, but I'm getting very irritated by the direction SOME (not all) HP Фаны are going. I try not to insult the actual Twilight FANS, but I'm guessing I have in the past, even though I didn't mean to.
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Lots of Twifans insult us,HP fans,too,you know.
HaleyDewit posted Больше года
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yup they SURE do
SEEKER6 posted Больше года
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yeah, i know. We BOTH can be like that.
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jodarchy said:
i do not stereotype, if someone says to me i am a twilight Фан then thats fine in fact certain members of my family like twilight. what i don't like are the twilight Фаны who call people who have a different opinion to themselves losers или nerds или bitches, i have never called a twilight Фан any of those simply because of their taste in Книги and i do not expect to be treated that way, also i am the kind of person who almost automatically corrects peoples grammar and spelling it is not meant as an insult it is just the kind of person i am, i have read both twilight and harry potter and i simply didn't like twilight i do not expect to be called a loser for simply having a differing opinion.
also i have never bullied a person in my life but i will stand up for myself and for other people who i feel are being bullied. twilight Фаны do the exact same thing so don't blast hp Фаны alone
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Renarimae said:
I'm a Фан of both and really the only Twi-fans that bother me are the ones that say, "OMG! EDDYKINS IS SO F-ING HAWT!!!!!!!!11111" and the ones that say that Harry Potter is for kids while Twilight's the mature deal. Yes, I'm a Фан of both, but I like Harry Potter a lot more. And there are some looney Twi-fans on Fanpop, good example: EdwardsBest. She constantly babbles about how hot Edward is and she constantly insults anyone who doesn't like it. But, most of the twi-fans I know aren't really rabid или insane. But, Ты seem like a very sane Twi-fan. And, hey, if Ты like Twilight, that's your opinion and I'm okay with that. So really, yes we do tend to stereotype a bit. But, me, I like both so, I only really negatively reply to the insane rabid Twi-fans like EB.
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awesometown said:
Not trying to be rude или anything here, but Ты kind of spelled "honors" wrong. Just saying that when trying to argue the point that you're very intelligent, Ты should check your spelling. :)
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zanhar1 said:
The reason Twilight Фаны are mistreated is because they come here and Показать us that thy're immature, MOST come here just to spam and trolll AND TYPE LYKE THRER BANGIN THER HEDS ON TE KIBOOD AT RAHDOOM!!!!! Thats really the only impression they've дана us, some uses like spherequeen and chargin were fine. But most went out of thir way to annoy us and some come here without Чтение Harry Potter and just saying it's lame its for nerds and are unable to back up their reasoning. Also they cant seem to come up with any reason but Edward is hot for likeing the books. If Twilight Фаны want respect they nee to earn it.
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LoveDraco123 said:
If Ты haven't noticed, most of the Twihards on here ARE a bit... y'know. Their grammar and spelling is suicide- really, it is. I think only THOSE kinda Фаны are mistreated, otherwise, we HP Фаны have no problem against them, I believe.
The thing is- there's no point in having an argument against Ты because Ты don't see what the Twilight Фаны do. We don't go around insulting them for no reason at all- there must be some background behind what we say. What about those Twilight Фаны who spam our Форумы saying stuff like, "HP SUXXXXX! TWILITE RULZZZ BCOZ EDWERD ND JAKOB R SOOOOOOO HAWT!" Really? Do Ты expect us to take that? If Ты think we will, then you're sadly mistaken.
Other Twilight Фаны like sapherequeen, and I suppose Ты (you sound perfectly decent) do not get mistreated. Sapherequeen is on my most respected list, to be very honest.
Yes, I do agree some HP Фаны do label ALL the Twihards as being dumb, which I think is wrong because I can perfectly see that's not true. Otherwise, we have a reason to do what we do! :) Maybe Twihards should respect us a little too.

Peace.
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ReibyKathBlack said:
eheeeemmmm ...
i'm a HUGE HP fan, and as far as i remember, i never insulted any twilight fans. i'm respect your opinion if u like twilight. My best friend is a twifan, and i'm ok with that.

i'm sooo sorry if u feel that way. but, i never planning или trying to insulted the twi-fans.

if u tell us that twilight is better than hp, then we tell u или make a Список why we think hp is better. u telling us to respect your opinion, and u have to respect our opinion that Harry Potter is waaayyyyy better than Twilight.

okay ? bubye, have a nice день . =)
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lalaland21 said:
I don't think that all Harry Potter Фаны insult us, but I don't like it when I get insulted just because I'm a Twilight fan. What I hate еще than anything else is when Harry Potter Фаны stereotype and say that I'm illiterate. I agree with what Ты сказал(-а) except for Twilight Фаны insult Harry Potter Фаны too, and sometimes we deserve to be insulted.
It's true that I've seen many illiterate Twilight Фаны on this spot, but I've also seen many illiterate Harry Potter fans, and I notice that no one picks on them, или tells them to write better. I just feel that us Twilighters are getting singled out for some things.
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ABDCFan- said:
I'm happy to try and get along with everyone of course, and I respect your opinions, and everyone else's, but when a Фан of Twilight comes into a spot, and offends me, или another person, I will not stand for it.
This is meant to be a Дебаты spot. We're meant to respect each others opinions and have a civil debate. We're supposed to state reasons on why we think twilight или hp is better. That's what it's here for...
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KatiiCullen94 said:
i totally agree.

But in addition, for all those who сказал(-а) they were debating not being cruel.
well thats nnot whats happened around here. We are the total lenght of route 66 away from what Debating is..

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Aquilia said:
"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." - Voltaire

That's is the real Voltaire quote behind the one that is the famousest (Lord of the Rings anyone?).
And I try my hardest to live by that maxim.
I know that there has been past transgressions in civility by me against some poor Twilight fans. And I hereby apologise for them dearly.
By offending someone Ты are not winning an argument, you're just heating it up, and last time I checked it was a fallacy, which allows others to discount that argument as invalid. Then isn't it pretty worthless to offend when Ты give a thought so in hindsight, no?

Therefore, I'm only going to be using my Ravenclaw-wit in sarcastically biting counter-arguments against the arguments the Twilight Фаны bring up.
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K5-HOWL said:
Rawr :3


















For those who do not understand this answer: This discussion I beleive has been finished, my opinion would be the same as someone else.
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 Rawr :3 For those who do not understand this answer: This discussion I beleive has been finished, my opinion would be the same as someone else.
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