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PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked by some Twilight Фаны and a few Harry Potter Фаны as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked by some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any Фан post an argument and employes this one as rearguard to fend off counter arguments; или it is used as an counter argument alone. In essence, by their logic, invoking jealousy immediately dismisses the opponents argument as defeated, and not worthy of any further discussion.

Now, this type of argument is one of the most atrocious fallacies in existence. Instead of counter-arguing against the opponents arguments, it dismisses them by attacking the merit of the person who put the original argument forward. The formal name is Argumentum ad hominem (argument to the person - personal attack fallacy), and in my opinion it is one of the vilest fallacies one can commit.

By insulting/attacking the opponent in a debate, one immediately loses several vital things, like respect. Further, insulting one's opponent has not moved the Дебаты вперед as the original arguments remain untouched, and therefore stands until a proper counter-argument takes them down.
In conclusion, calling one's opponent jealous is not helpful at all for one's cause. It firstly removes one's respectfullness; secondly it allows an opponents arguments to stay in place, which is basically handing one's opponents the victory. Now isn't that extremely beneficial for one's cause? Innit?

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF ME, THEREFORE MY SERIES IS BETTER"

Secondly, we shall examine the above quote. We pose one important question: Why is this argument false?
Firstly, let us see if there are any connection between these two statements: A persons jealousy and a book series' quality. Then I shall prove to Ты that jealousy is dependant of quality and not the other way around.

The level of jealousy of any person is most often a most personal feeling. It comes when any other person around us possesses something we do not possess, while this something is a thing we desire to have. Then we are jealous.
The quality of any book series of anything is dependent of several things. The grammatical correctness of the prose and therefore the ability to easily navigate the text, the level of interest they raise in us, the difficulty of the words in the prose, the moral message they present, et cetera. Whereas jealousy only touches the quality of a book series if and only if it is already possessing good quality, for who would even be interested in a book for starters if it is riddled with misspellings, faulty sentence order and promotes values we despise? Let alone desire to possess it?

Thus, jealousy is dependent on the quality of a book series, since it appears after the establishment of сказал(-а) quality. Therefore stating that quality is dependent on jealousy is inherently contradictory to the above proven hypothesis. So by stating the секунда hypothesis, one is obliged to prove it in its own term to defeat the contradiction.
As of yet, no one has presented me with convincing evidence that quality is dependent of jealousy. Since I compiled proof of my hypothesis (that jealousy is dependent of quality), I hazard to say that it stands.
Therefore, jealousy depends on quality, not the other way around. Quod Erat Demostrandum - Which was to be proven.

SUMMA SUMMARUM

To call one's opponents jealous while not counter-arguing сказал(-а) opponents arguments hands сказал(-а) opponents the victory by fiat, while being simultaneously fallacious and unworthy of respect. While arguing that "You're jealous of my book series, therefore my book series has quality" is at least a very false argument.
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posted by harrypotterbest
Harry stood at the forest’s edge without moving. He was thinking to leave, when a flurry of movement within caught his attention. Peering at the massive shape he could see, he realized too late that it was a wolf. He jumped out of the way, and the волк landed where he had been a секунда before. He looked down at it. The wolf, which had reddish-brown fur, growled up at him. Impulsively Harry withdrew his wand from his jeans pocket.
The волк stopped growling when it caught sight of the raised wand. It transformed into a man, and Harry backed up, astonishment on his face. The wolf-man spoke....
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Andrew: Okay, well, it's time now for our interview with the one and only, the fantastic, the charming, the bubbly - as Laura and Elysa described her after the Показать - interview, Stephenie Meyer. And now, for those of Ты who have read Breaking Dawn или are planning on Чтение it, we do get into the plot of the book, but I inserted a little spoiler warning before Breaking Dawn content so you'll know when to stop it so nothing gets spoiled for you. So, we'll take it away to our interview with Stephenie Meyer. Joining us now is Stephenie Meyer, the Автор of the highly successful Twilight saga,...
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"Why compare Harry Potter and Twilight? Why would Ты compare such different things?" are two Вопросы this spot has come across often. And to be honest, it irritates the living crap out of me when people ask this.
The media plays a role in things and this Дебаты is no different. On the cover of Breaking Dawn there is a quote from USA Today saying "Move over Harry Potter".(Newsflash, we're not going anywhere) Now, don't tell me that doesn't anger you/ Ты wouldn't feel angry if Ты were a Harry Potter fan. "Stephanie Meyer is the new J.K.Rowling." It really pisses me off when people say this...
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posted by TeamSiriusBlack
I did not write this.
1. Bella is a perfect character (“Mary Sue”), which Meyer hides by calling her clumsy.

2. Being clumsy is not a flaw if Edward always catches her.
3. She can’t do anything without Edward.
4. And when he leaves she attempts to commit suicide.
5. Meyer is living out her own fantasies by Письмо about Bella, who is clearly herself.
6. The Книги aren’t well written, just because every other word is a fancy adjective doesn’t make it good writing.
7. All the rules Meyer sets for being a vampire are broken by the end of the series.
8. Not only that, she breaks rules set by...
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posted by DivyaHarry
These are Татуировки of girls who are over-the-top obsessed about Twilight. Click on the Ссылки to see them.

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Are these people kidding themselves? The worst is the Edward Cullen/Robert Pattinson one. Ugh!

I was horrified by looking at them. It's one thing to be a part of a fad but it's a whole different thing to make that fad a part of your body.

What is the world coming to? Tomorrow when these girls go to get these horrors removed they'll probably be spending a lot еще than they spent paying to get it done.
Now here's the thing that seems to be the Популярное topic now. Harry Potter Книги and the Twilight series. First I'd like to point out I do not call Twilight a "saga" is because well if Ты look it up Ты will know why. There's this whole big clash of the Twilight fanatics and the Harry Potter fanatics. I just need to vent out on how I feel about this situation.

Okay if Ты Любовь Twilight than that's fine with me. I respect your opinions, but to me the book was terrible. Ты can instantly tell that it was Meyer's first book she had ever written. I only hate the book, I don't hate Ты for liking...
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Bella лебедь is a complex character. On the one hand she emphasizes the need to be independent, on the other she depends on guys to make her life meaningful. The emphasis on Edward and Jacob being handsome are probably the only reason she wants either of them. Her personality never grows over the course of the Книги and thus her interesting-ness is never explored. In contrast; she does take responsibility for her actions. Edward being an abusive, manipulative and obsessive boyfriend has been discussed and beaten to death a million times. But these qualities come across as endearing to Bella....
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posted by siriuslyawesome
A little play.

(setting-a stage. Creepy smoke rolls on ground, odd blue lighting. Edward stands looking at Стена and thinking)
Edward:Hmmm...
Harry:Hey Edward! What's going on?
(Edward ignores him)
Harry:Is something wrong? Is Bella being a pain or...
Bella: (runs in) WHY ARE Ты MAKING EDWARD UPSET?
Harry:I'm not trying to-
(Hermione runs in, panting)
Hermione: I heard yelling-what's going on?
Bella: Harry's making Eddieward mad.
Harry:I just asked if he was okay-
Bella:AND THAT MADE HIM UPSET!
Hermione: Bella, calm down.
Bella: DON"T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN Ты CALM DOWN!!!!!!
Hermione: That's...
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posted by Mysticfallstown
Well i think that it's quite obvious that HARRY POTTER has еще Фаны than twilight. Cause some people might not of heard of twilight before. I also think that people would like HARRY POTTER better because....

there is еще action and killing
some people might like wizards better
the weasley brothers are funny

I think people would like TWILIGHT because....

there is еще love
some people might like Вампиры better
it's a great story

I don't have a favourite because i Любовь HARRY POTTER and i Любовь TWILIGHT.HARRY POTTER and TWILIGHT are amazing.

By, Mysticfallstown xxx
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