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The bold text is my own add ins to relate the situations to Bella and Edward


Любовь is a tricky emotion. There are some things that feel like Любовь but they are much too superficial to be the real thing. Real Любовь takes time and doesn't happen overnight. Here are three things that people often confuse for love.

I don’t personally believe that Любовь can really be defined by anyone, but oh well. People like to try new things.

Lust A.k.a, Twilight


Lust is the feeling that is often mistaken for Любовь at first sight. Lust is an intense and sudden attraction to somebody Ты hardly know. It is mistaken for Любовь because the attraction is so strong.

This sounds a lot like Bella and Edward, right?

Lust can feel like Любовь because the feelings of attraction are strong and all-consuming. The emotions stirred up by lust can feel very real but they are based on a fantasy. To Любовь somebody Ты must know them well but many people fall in lust while they are still strangers. What people in lust fall for is a Фэнтези of what might be and reality can get Остаться в живых in the excitement.

I admit, this sounds a LOT like Bella, in the beginning

Overwhelmed by physical attraction people in lust can't keep their hands off of each other. They think about each other constantly and talk about one another all the time. Lust is a happy feeling brought on by passionate attraction. If Ты are inexperienced in matters of the сердце it is very easy to mistake all that passion for love.

Yes, Bella grabbed Edward a lot. Bella never really talked about Edward with anyone besides Edward. Both of them are inexperienced at matters of the heart

Lust differs from Любовь like night differs from day. Lust happens in the early phase of a relationship when people don’t yet know each other. Lust is based on a fantasy, and the Фэнтези and reality don’t always mesh up. This is where lust runs out of steam.

Although physical attraction is definitely a key ingredient in any romantic relationship, Любовь is еще than just a physical longing. If a relationship is all about physical attraction it is based on lust. Really loving another person takes time and it can't be based on physical attraction alone.

Obsession a.k.a, New Moon


Obsessions are often mistaken for Любовь because people rationalize the crazy feelings they are having. They assume that it must be Любовь if the other person is always on their mind. Obsession is similar to lust but it is much еще misleading and destructive. While lust is often fleeting, fading as two people come to know each other better, obsession sticks around.

Before anyone says that Bella and Edward never got to know each other before this stage, please allow me to direct Ты link. You’ll need to scroll a little further than halfway down the page to see Edward asking Bella about every detail of her life as a way to get to know her. This was before Edward сказал(-а) he loved her, but after Bella claimed to be irrevocably in love, unfortunately.

The еще time and effort invested in an unhealthy obsession the еще intense the obsession can become. People in an obsessed state have a one track mind where the other person is concerned and they often lose touch with who they are as an individual. This loss of individuality creates a vicious круг of behavior where the obsessed person grows еще and еще dependent on the other person to bolster their sense of self.

This pretty much speaks for itself. Bella running off with strange bikers, reckless cliff diving, etc

Even unrequited love, Любовь that is not returned, can become an overwhelming obsession. When one person believes they are in a relationship that doesn't really exist, или when one person is еще invested in an existing relationship than the other, the foundation for an obsession has been laid.

One could argue that Bella was in an unrequited relationship because Edward wasn’t actively present at a certain point

Real Любовь is nurturing and helps people grow but obsession is debilitating. If Ты feel like Ты have Остаться в живых yourself, if Ты are always striving to please your partner without them doing the same for you, and if Ты find yourself making all decisions in your life based on the feelings and needs of the other person Ты could be dealing with obsession.

Also, keep in mind the Mormon belief that a partner is pretty much required.

Rebounding A.k.a, Jacob


A rebound is a relationship that starts up very quickly after another relationship has ended. Rebounds are rarely based on Любовь but are really a way of alleviating the loneliness people feel when a relationship ends.

Bella uses Jacob as a distraction from her obsessive mentality.

Rebounding can feel like Любовь for the simple reason that the people involved want to be in love. They are used to the security of being in Любовь and еще than anything else they want to feel that security again. They convince themselves that they are in Любовь when they are actually missing the safety and comfort of the relationship they left behind.

This explains all the confusing emotions. Bella turned to Jacob for the security. Jacob was misled by her intentions.

If an old relationship keeps interfering with the progress of a new relationship it could mean that the relationship is a rebound. When somebody is on the rebound they are not entirely over their Назад relationship. They may still be trying to work out unresolved issues from that relationship. Rebound relationships may feel like Любовь but they are still impacted by unsettled feelings from the past.

Bella never got over Edward. It’s expected to believe that if she had gotten over him, или if Edward had never been in the picture at all, there would have been something еще between Bella and Jacob.

I believe that from this point on, Edward and Bella were indeed in love. Edward, I believe to have been in Любовь earlier on. Bello jumped the gun and confused her lust with love, but it eventually caught up with her and things evened out.

I believe that real Любовь cannot happen without a sense of obsession to keep Ты loyal. Lust is necessary to keep Ты interested, I guess, but I don't find it necessary. I don't see anything wrong with it either.

In conclusion, there's no denying the initial lust. Bella and Edward took the steps usually taken in forming a proper romantic relationship.




I will have еще on this as I continue rereading the series.
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posted by hpotterforever7
Ok, well I'm going to be perfectly respectful in this Статья because I don't want to make anyone mad, I just want to make a point. If Ты agree или disagree with it, that's up to you. Please don't be rude inthe Комментарий section, and give reasons for opinions. Thanks!

Now I can start. May I just start by saying that I am on the Harry Potter side (with all due respect to Twilight fans)

I've noticed that one of the things Twilight Фаны say is that Bella is a еще relatable character than Harry. I think that that is a good point because technically, Ты can be a normal teenager who goes to school...
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posted by LavenderBrown
Some people (not necessarily Americans) have admitted having trouble with the British words in Harry Potter. To solve this problem, I give you...An Americans Guide to British words!

1) Prat
Someone who is described as being dumb или self centered. Usually acts against logic.
e.x. Jeez, Roldolfo is such a prat!

2) Git
Basically, a jerk. Shallow and/or childish.
e.x. Look at that git, strutting around like he owns the place!

3) Err...
The British equivalent of umm...
e.x. "Errr.... is it 42?"

4) Barmy
Insane/Crazy.
e.x. That old mans gone barmy!

5.) Blast
Equivalent to "Dang!"
e.x. Blast! Some git's taken...
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Twihards или Rabid Фаны (thats obsessive Twilight fans, all of you): Don't read this. I don't want to get mauled или drowned.
I apologize for any spelling или grammar errors.
Don't get me wrong- I like Twilight just fine. However, many parts of it really annoyed me. Here are my reasons why I liked Harry Potter better.

1. Characters.
Lets compare:
Lead female role in HP: Hermione Granger. Flaws: a bit nerdy, Know-it-all, and Bossy. Good traits: Stood up for herself (as well as think for herself), worked against racism (for house-elves), was loyal to Harry at all times, and didn't try to kill herself...
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posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I Speedy Gonzalez did not write this I merely copied and pasted it. The original may be found link.

I got Breaking Dawn on the день that it came out and was hoping that Meyer would somehow redeem the steadily deteriorating quality of the Twilight series. What a huge disappointment. I was even еще disappointed when I found out how Meyer was responding to the criticism towards it. Then I discovered that she was Письмо Midnight Sun. I looked вперед to that because, even though all of the Книги suck, they are a guilty pleasure and Twilight was the best of all of them. Then she stopped writing...
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posted by lilcherrywine
Dear friends,
This is my first attempt at Письмо a creative article. I've attempted the Facebook page of HP, and hope Ты like it. Sorry for the lame humor, it's my very first time. Thanks for reading, and please drop in your comments, because I need your opinion. Thanks again.


HP’S fb page


HARRY POTTER

Went to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Lives in London.
Knows English, Parseltongue
From Godric’s Hollow
Born on July 31, 1880




Cho Chang: Harry, I had a trip with dad and mom to Forks last week and I spotted Cedric there. Yes, Harry, I saw him. I don’t know what’s happening, I mean,...
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Now to anyone of the teensy-beensy minority that has never heard of Twilight's male protagonist, Edward Cullen, he supposedly a vampire that falls in deep "love" with a human girl named Bella.

Now I must object to this Описание of the Edward and Bella (Edella или Bedward, lol). While the relationship is described as being true love, I personally think that the relationship is any BUT deep, true love. It is, in my, along with many other fanpoppers, opinion that this relationship is extraordinarily unhealthy and codependent, and that Edward's supposed "love" is obsessive love.

Obsessive love:...
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posted by PotterLambert93
Today, I read a post from "youknowit101" on "1000 Reason why Twilight is better than harry Potter", and it completley gave me секунда thoughts about this whole thing between the rival series. According to this guy, he is very ashamed at the HP Фаны for attacking the Twilight Фаны and how immature they are, and to be honest, I now couldn't agree more. He's right, HP fans, we are the immature ones, not the Twilighters. We Potterheads are taking HP for granted and using it to rub it in other people's faces.

Now I see why Twilight Фаны barley respond to the debates and articles, and it's because...
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posted by sy-sy
why deos twilight annoy me? because when twilight came out everyone 4 got hp then the new hp movie came out and they loved hp again thgen twilight movie came out people just cant make up their minds well i can ive seen all the hp movie so far and twilight and even though hp leave s out some stuff its still TEN times better twilight is annoying becuz they think they can come in and steal the whole Показать that why oppion of a hpfan gcsfdsjhvcdshvcwrivhrweuvghbersvksfdhvsklvhjsdfvklsdfvb dfc bvhdx jkhdfvoperfcujrehvcjfdvhhhjukdsxhcdsjcv
posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I, SpeedyGonzalez did NOT write this. I just merely copyed and pasted it.

Ah, yes, Stephenie Meyer, Автор of the Twilight series. My opinion of her, from the way that she has presented herself to the public in interviews and such, is that she is a whiny, self absorbed woman with the mind of a 13 год old. She can't deal with criticism because it hurts her delicate little feelings, and believes that she is an amazing writer and that her story and characters are somehow superior to those seen in the works of people such as Jane Austen and William Shakespeare. Here's one statement that shows that...
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Okay, so a lot of people have been asking that I put еще Дебаты stuff and reasons why I think Twilight is better. Now that we're all Друзья and don't hate eachother anymore, I hope we can all have a reasonable debate.

But before I start, I want to say that I don't compleatley hate Harry Potter anymore. I saw the Deathly Hallows today, my friend is somewhat of a fan, and wanted to see it. I reluctaintly went with her, and it actually wasn't that bad. Ты see, I read the first-fourth Harry Potter books, and read most of the seventh. The Deathly Hallows movie was much better than the book in...
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Hello everyone!

I'm planning on Письмо a letter to Stephenie Meyer regarding the Twilight series. I wanted to address all the points many people do not like in the series. The letter is going to be friendly and straight-forward. I wanted to hear what everyone would want me to include. These are a few of the topics I am going to be including:

- Anti-feminism
- Abusive relationship
- Unhealthy obsession
- Lust does not equal Любовь
- Bella is horribly rude to her Друзья (not valued friendships)

These are just a few. Please add anything and if there is something specific you'd like me to add.

I'll be working on this letter and posting on Sunday on Fanpop, so I can add anything else and have your approval and then I will send it to her.
I understand that Seth probably won't let it get to her, but it's worth a shot and I will post his reply (assuming he does reply.)

Thank you! :)
posted by Kassaremidylynn
I wrote this a while назад for my English class. We had to write about something we felt strongly about, and I feel very strongly about this, so...

Many people think that I would be an avid Twilight lover and a hater of the Harry Potter Книги after their first impression. What they see may seem to point to that: I’m a fifteen год old girl who devours books, is a self-proclaimed hopeless romantic, loves all things vampire related, and I wear a ton of black. In reality, this couldn’t be far from the truth. It is actually the complete opposite. I absolutely despise anything Twilight related...
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posted by GemonkDruid
A/N: I just thought it would be an interesting subject, Ты know? And before Ты do anything, just to let Ты know, I FAIL at characterisation. So don't go all batshit on me if I get Hermione или anyone else wrong, 'kay?

Today, on the 17th of October, the court session for the famous "Meyer Case" was initiated. Stephenie Meyer, founder of Twilight, inc., the billion-dollar advertising company, was arrested on several charges, including: allegations of fraud charged by worldwide companies Feminism, inc., 3D pwns 2D, and Literature n Books; the murder of various brain cells; abuse and rape of thesarus,...
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posted by emilykuru
Fanfiction:

edward-bella vs harry-ginny

Edward and bella go to a railway station during one rainy день in london. They meet harry and ginny there,

( bella is not changed into a vampire yet )

Edward: bella love, close your eyes please!

Bella: why edward?

(thinks to himself)

Edward : just yesterday I had promised her that she was the prettiest one I have ever seen, but here here is ginny who looks so pretty.
And bella should better stay away from harry, или she will ditch me like jake..

( meanwhile harry is using legilimence when edward is busy thinking )

Harry: well, why am I going to eye a crackpot...
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There once was this girl named Bri, who had a best friend (for this article, we'll call her Z). Bri and Z had identical taste in books. So, when Z gave Bri Twilight for Рождество and told her how “great” it was and kept going on and on. She tried to convince Bri that it was better than Harry Potter (the book Bri had been obsessed with since she was nine) but Bri didn't believe that at all. Still, if Z liked it, then Bri knew she would like it. She had no hesitation when she cracked the binding. She was hooked.

Now, this was before Twilight grew to be psychotically massive, so when Bri came...
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Before Ты start reading, I'd like to say this is my personal opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. If I am, I'd appreciate Ты don't get mad because I don't like fighting. It wasn't meant to be rude, mean или hurtfull to anybody.

For me Twilight was too easy to read. I could predict what would happen and the plot was too easy. The thing is, the plot isn't bad. Вампиры exist, that's cool. Ты know one, yes, very cool. But the way Stephenie Meyer introduces it, how she developed her characters, how she modeled the vampire species, that is where Twilight gets people annoyed. It represent the iceburg that...
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