Do Ты agree with me? Pansexuality does not exist.

Honestly, no. I couldn't agree with Ты less. As a pansexual, I find this claim extremely offensive.
First of all, the difference between being pan and being bi: bisexuals are, by definition, attracted to two или еще genders. Because there are еще than two. They can feel attracted to anyone, like pans, but there's still a difference. Pansexuals aren't attracted to "all genders" as Ты say. Pansexuals aren't attracted to gender at all. We couln't care less what gender a person is. We're attracted to the personality of someone, because that's really the only thing we care about.

No, Ты are greatly confusing the two.
Bisexuality means Ты are attracted to the two sexes. Male and Female.
Pansexuality means you're attracted to all types of people. Whether they are male, female, transgender, intersex, ect.
Someone who is bisexual may not be attracted to these people, which is why they are considered Bi and not pansexual.
People are not pansexual because it's "mainstream". They are pansexual because that's who they are. They are attracted to what they are attracted to an they cannot help that.
I can understand your confusion between them. I thought they were the same at first when I didn't really know much about either. But now I know for a fact, they are not the same thing and pansexuality does exist.

Bisexuality is certainly not pansexuality.

I'm bisexual and I'm not comfortable with the idea of dating a transexual person. I have trans Друзья but I would be a bit uncomfortable dating them. I know they're normal and I treat them like the gender they identify with but for some unexplicable reason, I don't want to have sex with them...if that makes sense.

The key words in your Вопрос were "to me". That's just it, TO Ты they ARE the gender they identify to. But that's not so for everyone.

I don't think Ты should be saying things that Ты think apply to everyone, but might not.

It's also not very nice to say that pansexuality doesn't exist. Lots of people think bisexuality doesn't exist. Think of how offensive that is.

What about Androgynous people? или Intersex people? Bisexuals may not be attracted to these kind of people, but a pansexual might.

Well, pansexual people also like people who свинг, качели back and forth between a man and a woman, genderless people, and various other genders that bisexuals simply cannot fall in Любовь with. It definitely exists. I do understand your thinking, though.

It really depends on how Ты define "bisexuality". Some use it to mean "at the poles", as in attracted to the most definitely masculine and feminine but nothing in between, while others use it to meant "at the poles and everything in between". For those who make a distinction between the two, the latter is called "pansexuality". "Bi" is "two"; "pan" is "all".

I remember when Pansex used to mean that it was a transgendered person who was atrracted to their birth gender. (Man now woman, is still attracted to women, so they would be seen as "Lesbian" to those who wouldnt know that they are transgendered) It was something My ЛГБТ group would say to identify those types of sexual orientation. But However Pansexuality is considered way different? And Pansex wasnt intended to be the shorter version of the word, its just what we used. I say, if Ты dont have "scientifical" evidence that pansexuality does not exsist then Ты cant say it and expect everyone to go along with you. If your gay Ты say your gay, and if your Bi your bi. And if your Pansexual i say your pansexual. Sometimes people will call themselves Pansexual because maybe they do not liked to be considered bisexual, i know many gay people who perfer homosexual and Лесбиянки who just want to be known as gay. eh, im confused so i guess ill shut up.

I think the difference between bisexuality and pansexuality is that if you're pansexual Ты are supposedly not conscious about the gender of the person while a bisexual is еще limited.

P.S. I have really bad grammar and stuff so I'm sorry if this isn't a good answer.

Ты see, the problem with what Ты сказал(-а) is that Ты basically сказал(-а) that there are only three gender identities: cis female, cis male, and trans. That's wrong. while there ARE cis girls, cis guys, and trans girls and trans guys, Ты need to understand that some trans folk identify as binary and some identify as nonbinary. Also, there are countless other gender identities. Nongender, demigirl, demiboy, androgynous are just a few of them. Bisexuality is the attraction to two или еще genders, while pansexuality is attraction to people regardless of gender (I wouldn't say 'genderblind' though. As a pansexual myself, I do see gender, I just don't particularly care when it comes to my attraction of the person). So. Yeah. Pansexuals and bisexuals are definitely different, and definitely valid. :)

it's good to see people are actually starting to notice us in the transgender community. i've recently come out as a transgender male here on fanpop. i don't know if anyone who knew me before will be shocked, i think it was actually pretty obvious if Ты knew me well though. i've been here since i was 15.

yes, i agree with you, that definition of panssexuality offends me too...a lot. yes, liking a transgender man/woman does not define your sexuality whatsoever. if a straight man likes a woman that was no born with female parts then he is still straight and there are many reasons for this. for one thing transsexual women have been scientifically proven to have brains resembling a female еще than a male, as well as transgender men. liking a transgender или gender queer person does not define your sexuality and i would like it if these uneducated panssexuals would quit it.

however, on a different note, not everyone wants to identify as the same thing. some people may feel еще comfortable calling themselves panssexuals just as some genderqueer people want to call themselves "two spirit", which basically has a very convoluted meaning. i think people should be allowed to use whatever label that Форс-мажоры them.

also, panssexual can also mean someone who isn't attracted physically to males или females, they are attracted to personalities and emotions. ie. less superficial, that is the meaning i have come to know before some uneducated people (with good intentions i might add, but non the less uneducated) tried to associate it with our gender. gender and sexuality are on completely different playing feilds. i am a bisexual, and i know many transgender women who are lesbian, but that doesn't mean they would enjoy a single moment of being a man, no, they Любовь their lipstick, they Любовь their pretty clothes and jewelry, why should they have to sacrifice any of that? why should they have to sacrifice their womanhood? many non-transgender Лесбиянки are super girly!

As a pansexual and transgender male myself, I'm gonna clear things up. Firstly, there's a gender spectrum, there are еще than two genders. Yes, if someone says they're a woman, they're a woman, and if someone says they're a man, then they are a man. On the other hand, there are people who are non-binary, agender, demi-boy, demi-girl, gender fluid, etc. There's so many ways that people can identify as and that is a definite line between being bisexual and pansexual. As a pansexual, it wouldn't matter to me what a person identifies as, I focus еще on the actual person, not what they have in their pants compared to what they identify as. Bisexuality on a concrete level means a person dates either one of the female или male gender, this doesn't exclude people who are'nt cisgendered as a man или woman.

As a pansexual I disagree with you.
Pansexuals don't дата for gender.
Their are some people who choose to be no gender.
We don't give a crap what's in your pants.
We Любовь a person for who they are on the inside.

No I don't agree. I see your point, but here's mine. Bisexuality means having sexual attraction to males and females (including transmen and transwomen, because as Ты say they are the gender they identify as), hence the 'bi' at the beginning of the word, meaning two. However, there are еще types of gender. Agender/gender neutral means someone who doesn't identify as having a gender, therefore creating a new gender (you may say that they must have a gender, that they can't be in the middle. But that's not what this is about, this is about who they IDENTIFY as). Furthermore, genderfluid means a person who changes from identifying themselves as male to identifying themselves as female, thus creating a fourth gender. Finally, someone can be born without anything in between their legs. I don't know the name of this, but I think it's too rare to have a common name. This adds up to 5 genders. Therefore, Pansexuality, also known as gender blind, is the attraction to ALL genders, not just male and female, because of the 'pan' at the start of the word. This means that pansexuals don't find attaction in a limited amount of genders, and find attraction in others based on personality versus gender. I believe this Ответы your question. Please do correct me if Ты believe I've made any mistakes.

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pansexuality and bisexuality are TOTALLY DIFFERENT
as a pansexual myself, i know im attracted to people not based on gender identity bc i could care less honey, but personality instead. bisexuals are еще focused on gender identity while pansexuals don't mind as long as сказал(-а) partner has a good personality

I have to agree with Ninja-Kitten on this one. I'm bisexual and I'm not really attracted to the idea of having sex with someone who's trans gender. I mean I don't have a problem with them at all(much respect actually)but just not attracted. However we're all got our own opinions n decisions- thts what got us in this club in tha first.

But what about people that dint identity As either/ both genders? many if not most bisexuals would be extremely uncomfortable dating someone that doesn't conform to societies gender roles, At least in their heads. the whole idea and concept of PAN sexuality is that there Are еще than Just two gender sex combinations and that they Are All equally besots ful And sexy in their Own ways. its not only the term for our sexual orientation but it is a political Statement of our beliefs About gender. And I don't Care what Ты believe, but I know that my sexuality is VERY different thon most people that identify Ps bisexual.And so THAT is why we have different terms for ourselves.

I know this Вопрос is old, but here goes anyway. Pansexual is not just a declaration of "I am also attracted to genderqueer people" but an acknowledgement that gender is a spectrum and not merely polar. Sure, people who identify as bisexual may be attracted to genderqueer people too, but to just slap the simple "bi" label on it denies the existence of those in-between identities. So in effect, sure, pansexual may be just a politically correct word, but I don't see it as a declaration of attraction to trans* people but rather loving people, in general, however they identify.

I agree with you. A lot of the people I've known who identity as pansexual seem to believe that romantic attraction is the same as sexual orientation and it isn't. Lots of people can be attracted to inter sex или gender queer people but it's not a significant amount of the population it's been embedded into biology in the same way the sexual binary has. Maybe eventually humans will biologically evolve to that point but I believe it's a choice and not a sexuality. I don't mind people who say they are pan romantic but pansexuality doesn't exist and is simply a way of young people to throw off the idea of the gender binary by shouting "All of your labels are binary! So we're going to invent our own sexuality!" And it doesn't work like that. They kind of crap all over every other valid sexuality too but focus most on bisexual women and Лесбиянки in a very sexist way. *This what I have witnessed online and sometimes first hand in real life which is why my sympathies for pans is fairly low* They could go a long way by trying not to be such special little snowflakes. I'm bi and I've been with several people outside the binary. I don't need some special blue ribbon for it. When all of them seemed to have no problem with how I identified but tons of pan girls who are cis and have never been with a trans do. I don't get it .

Ты say it hurts Ты to see your Transgender friend hurting? Does it matter to Ты who your hurting? I'm Bi или at least thought I was. Over time I have been in love/attracted to gay men/women bi/transgendered persons. Now the confusion clears away and I know I am Pansexual. If this is what Ты want, this your belief system. Its alright, your a Bigot. But its on you. k?

I always find it a little offensive when someone says pansexuality "doesn't exist". That's like telling a gay person your sexuality doesn't exist. It sounds a bit ignorant, as if Ты just choose not to think outside the proverbial mainstream box people like to live in, in order to shut out the ever growing reality...

I'm pansexual (always have been and always will be) and Ты sound like a kid whose never read the definition of pansexuality before.

Ты have to remember that there is a large gray area between being straight and gay, as well as, sexualities that go far beyond that spectrum. For example, Intersex people are neither female nor male. Say Ты chose to дата an intersex person, Ты can't call yourself "bisexual" nor can Ты call yourself straight. You're not gravitating to their sexual organs, but who they are inside, absent of their gender или whatever sexuality they claim. That's pansexuality.

I understand this Вопрос is a bit old though, so hopefully, you've been enlightened since then.

Bi means two. That means that they only like TWO genders.
Pan means all. Therefore they are not the same thing. Pansexuality is real. If people can like two genders then people can like all genders.

Wether Ты believe what i tell Ты или my personal opinion not is irrelevant, all i wish to do is inform you. I classify as pansexual. I was confused because i didn't like a specific gender and people would ask me why i wold fall for physically unattractive people when I can do so much better. Truth is (just like pansexual people, I am gender blind, i do not look at some physical criterea like gender race или sexual identity, just the possibility of Любовь with someone.

Yes there are people who aren't true Pansexuals that misuse it to make either bisexuality sound better или make their attraction to the same gender seem less... queer and strange. But truth is wether Ты believe in it или not is yet again irrelevant, because it doesn't make it any less real.

Hi there :) I know this is an old post, but I thought I might clear up something about pansexuality. I identify as a female pansexual. This isn't because I think bisexuality is "too mainstream". I also don't think that being bisexual means that Ты view gender as being binary. I know that there doesn't seem like much of a difference between identifying as bisexual, polysexual или pansexual, but for me the term "pansexual" refers to the fact that gender doesn't even come into the equation. I think of it as saying that I don't have a gender preference. The reason I choose this term over "bisexual" is because there are countless gender identities, and I'm not just into two of those identities ("bi"), I'm into all of them ("pan"). When it boils down to it, it's a distinction in wording and it's a label that fits my experience of my own sexuality best. Therefore - No, I don't agree with you, but I hope this helps with maybe understanding pansexuality as an identity a little bit еще :)

No. You're correct that a binary trans person belongs to the same gender category as cis person of the same gender (trans men are MEN, trans women are WOMEN), and thus an attraction to "both men and women" would in no way preclude attraction to trans men and trans women (and I feel the need to point out that such attractions are no еще binarist или erasing of non-binary folk than monosexual attractions are sexist или erasing of those genders not found sexually attractive by gay and straight folk).

A person identifying as pansexual and identifying zir/her/his orientation as "attraction to men, women, and transgender folk" is misgendering an othering binary trans folk, and this is not okay.

There are еще than just the two genders, however. Plenty of people don't identify as male или female. There is a whole wide world of non-binary genders people can experience attraction towards.

Ты are also correct that the most common definitions of bisexuality are "attraction to еще than one gender" and "attraction to genders both similar to and different from my own. Plenty of bisexual people are attracted to еще than two genders (and those only attracted to two genders need not necessarily be attracted to the two binary genders).

This in no way invalidates the existence of pan people (indeed, when has one orientation ever been dependent upon the definition of another?).

Probably the best way to describe the distinction between bisexuality and pansexuality is that bisexuality is the attraction to two или еще genders (a bisexual person could experience attraction toward people of two genders, или three, или 7, или 9, или all genders), pansexuality is еще specifically attraction to people of ALL genders (so someone who is attracted to people of all genders could just as easily identify as bisexual as they could pansexual - and indeed, plenty of folk identify as both - but a person who is only attracted to people of two или three genders probably wouldn't identify as pansexual).

It's basically just a еще specific identifier for those who experience attraction regardless of gender (though the concept of "gender blindness" makes me VERY uncomfortable, not only for all of the same reasons "color blindness" makes me uncomfortable, but also because it can amount to erasing the genders of people who have worked and continue to work very hard to have their gender recognized by the rest of the world) или who - like me - are attracted to a wide range of genders.

For me, I identified as bisexual for a long while after I was familiar with pan as an identity (and frankly, seeing the behavior of the most vocal members of the internet pansexual community makes me consider eschewing the label entirely), but eventually, "pan" became a еще practically useful identity, as it gave a еще precise Описание of my attractions, and saved me the extra effort of listing the genders I experience attraction toward.

I was originally taught that bisexuality is being attracted to the two binary genders (males and females). A similar orientation is polysexuality, which is when someone is attracted to a few genders (but not necessarily all genders). In that sense, bisexuality is a form of polysexuality, because it means you're not attracted to every gender, just the two binary ones.

Pansexuality, from what I've been told from people who identify as pansexual, technically means that Ты are attracted to all genders, или people regardless of gender, although some may still have preferences. The key point is that it's inclusive to all gender identities - not limited to just the binary ones like bisexuality.

Bi means two so bisexuality means Ты are attracted to two genders (male & female). Pan means all so being pansexual means Ты are attracted to all genders. If bis say they are attracted to genderqueer people then they are actually probably pansexual. Also pansexuality is a sexuality where we are attracted to personality rather than attraction of a certain gender. When being attracted to someone we can separate physical attraction from emotional attraction. We fall in Любовь with people because of who they are not what they are.

We are real and we are basically a еще advanced type of bisexuality as we can like people who are intersex, gay, straight, genderless, third gendered people или people who are some combination of genders

I think it exists. Yes, we are basically bisexual, if that's how Ты wish to see it, but they key difference is that bisexuals are attracted to both men and women (trans included), and pansexuals are also attracted to both men and women, but with the addition of genderfluid people and hermaphrodites. I know a lot of people say there is no "third sex", but in my mind, biologically, a hermaphrodite is neither man nor woman, (not to disregard gender identity, which is their choice), which makes them a third gender. This is just what I believe, and I mean no offence by it.

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according to Ты i dont exist so this post must not exist wow

They are trying to give a new name to bisexuality... Cause a buddy of mine is bisexual and he doesn't care about what gender the person is male,female,or both he has no preference and he states he is bisexual

Here it is, short and sweet. When Ты say bisexual, and say that bisexuals like genderqueer people, you're very much wrong. Anyone identifying that way is actually pansexual. Now I intend no offense on anyone for having misidentified, but that's just what it is. Bisexual- bi means two, and in this case refers to people who like both genders. So yes, Ты could say that bisexual people like transsexuals just the same, as they identity as one of the two genders или have had full operations to make them acceptable as a different gender from their original gender from birth. Pansexual, pan coming from greek meaning all, could also be called omnisexual, but of course pansexual is a еще accepted term. Pansexuals either don't recognize genders, and/or do not care what gender Ты identify as. Bisexuals do not (orientation-wise) participate in consensual sexual relations with genderqueer people. If someone says they do, the proper and accepted term is pan, или pansexual. I hope I cleared this up for you.

But what about the people with no genders. And don't think Ты quite understand pansexuality vs. bisexuality. A bisexual may like only girls and boys, they may not like a girl with a penis или a boy with a vagina или somebody who doesn't identify with any gender. They might not like all genders. But pansexuals, like myself, like ALL genders. We might have preferences, but we have the potential to like anybody, regardless of gender.

As a pansexual I know who and what I like. Pansexuals are attracted to everyone. EVERYONE. Straight, gay, trans, gender queer, and people who don't even know their gender. To say we're too mainstream for bisexual is wrong. The definition for bisexual is being attracted to only men and women.

The thing is, 'bi' means two, and sure, there's gender queer and stuff, but you're overlooking quite a bit of the non-binary community, for example, I myself, am agender, not genderqueer, not female, not male. Pan people are attracted to non-binary as well.

As a panromantic pansexual, this was very, very offensive to me.

Living with a bisexual sister, I can safely say that there is a big, BIG difference between bisexuality and pansexuality.

Bisexuality is normally attracted to two genders: men and women. My sister is open to having Друзья of another sexuality but she doesn't necessarily have a sexual attraction towards these people.

Pansexuality, however, can be attracted to any and all gender identities and sexualities. I personally do not care about a person's gender, whether genderqueer, bigender, trigender, или whatever. What matters is personality and how a person makes me feel.

And what I find upsetting is that you're gay, nothing wrong with that. Ты are part of the ЛГБТ community, a community that already receives a lot of hate and discrimination, as well as having misconceptions and stereotypes spread. I don't like how you're basically throwing fellow ЛГБТ members under the bus just because Ты don't understand what it is.

I am a pansexual and I can proudly say that we exist.

The way I see it, bi sexual people are attracted to people of similar and other genders. Pansexual people are attracted to people REGARDLESS of gender. Both are valid identities. I'm bi, but I am not attracted to guys and i have a preference for gender fluid people I think so yeah. don't say someone's identity doesn't exist, that is not cool.

First of all. Being attracted to transgenders and cisgenders is different. If someone is attracted to let's say a man who was born a man, that is cisgender. But it's not the same as them being attracted to a trans male. It isn't really offensive since its a preference. Another thing is that bi means 2 so basically if Ты are bi Ты are attracted to two genders. Whether that be gender fluids или trans etc. The most common is being attracted to cisgenders. Pan means all, so basically they can possibly be attracted to all genders. The fact that Ты would openly online come out and deny a sexuality and try to defend it is for one thing stupid. Considering even if Ты have the "facts" Ты will still get hate for it. And also the fact that Ты are not bisexual yet are speaking in half of them and again denying a sexuality doesn't make sense. Then bringing up the fact of your friend being bullied (I'm so sorry for Her btw) is irrelevant to the topic. And I'm still not quite sure why Ты brought it up. But considering I don't exist (since I'm pan) I gues I would let know would I. Anyway your entire Статья is based off of your assumption of a sexuality Ты don't even believe in. So therefore i am done now with this long answer. And am leaving this site Bc I am insulted and mad.

I do not agree with Ты because pansexuality and bisexuality are indeed different. Bisexuality refers to two genders (hence the 'bi') while pansexuality refers to all genders (hence the 'pan', meaning all). Some examples of other genders include genderqueer, genderfluid, agender, bigender, and trigender. Pansexuality includes all of these while bisexuality only refers to two of them, but it doesn't always mean male and female.

i see your point but Ты completely left out people that identify as agender, bigender, или the whole range of demi girls and boys. pansexual is pretty much a term for anybody who would be with anybody else because they dont care what they identify as they basically just care if they like the guy/girl/other. its basically just a sexuality that says screw the whole gender thing we like people based on their personality или compatibility with us. so its basically just bisexuality+

I'm pansexual and we are not just attracted to male female genderqueer, there are so many other genders like bigender, genderfluid, agender, genderflux. there are so many еще that i simply can't put because of space.

To be completely honest with Ты I 100% disagree.
I myself am a Pansexual girl, being Pansexual is different from Bisexuality. For one Bisexuality is restricted to strictly themalw and female gender roles, But for Pansexuality Ты are attracted to the person for their heart, not their physical sex organ. And yes I do agree with Ты on the fact of transgender people should be identified as what they prefer, but to be correct Ты have to think of the fact that there are еще than two genders. Genderfuid would be of not male and female and that would not classify as a single gender. And agender neither gender. The. Pansexual community is sometimes referred to as gender blind because to us the gender doesn't matter. Ты Любовь the person for who they are not for what that have in their pants.

If you're saying it doesn't exist that seems purely ignorant. I was with a woman once who сказал(-а) there was no such thing as bi because Ты could only Любовь one gender...I couldn't care less if they had all the parts или no parts. I can see where Ты come from in terms of gender identity But i know plenty of bi people who would not be with an hermaphrodite. To me i believe gender labels are a bit dumb and personally i believe Ты are the "gender" Ты are unless Ты think otherwise and i can genuinely accept that.

Quite honestly im not being mean im pansexual ok heres my explanation for it bi means 2 not boy или girl but two genders any two genders pan means all including genderqueer agender and adrogynous as well as people who identify as men или women( which includes transgenders) gay means u дата people who identify as male lesbian means Ты дата those who identify as female c etc i would дата all also pansexuality is different bc its not just about genders to us but еще about personality we look at all the ppl and find the one who we think best complements us . This is just my personal belief but i believe everybody is entitled to their opinions but alsoentitled to stand up for what they believe and im dating a ftm

What about genderfluid, gender neutral, non-binary and third gender people? Pansexuals aren't just attracted to trans and cis but all genders.

This kind of offended me, but I feel that Ты just aren't educated enough on this topic.(Not trying to sound mean). With being pansexual, it means you're attracted to ALL genders. Not just forms of female and male. This includes agender(which I am), genderfluid, and whatever someone identifies as. I feel that labeling myself as bisexual would count out the other genders, and I am open to loving people of any gender. :^)

Pansexuality does exist, because I am pansexual.

Ok so Pansexuality is also considered gender blind we don't mind the difference between a binary (male and female) and non-binary (genderfluid, bigender etc.) genders. Bisexuality is the attraction to two genders not always binary it can be any two genders. That's the big difference pansexual = gender blind, Bisexual = two genders (Binary или non binary).

Personally, I do think Pansexuality is a thing, and not just because I identify as Pansexual.
I thought about the point Ты made, that some Bisexuals would still find a Trans person attractive. But if the person in Вопрос likes Males, Females and Transgender people they are most likely Polysexual (Polysexual is where a person may like any combination of genders или sexes, but not all the genders или sexes.) или perhaps they might be Pansexual (I know Ты think Pansexual is just liking Females, Males and Trans, but it is actually when someone is attracted to every gender and sexual orientation).
Personally, I think that Ты aren't trying to discriminate against Pansexuals, but that the encounters that Ты have had with people who think of themselves as Pansexual. Maybe a 13 год old girl pretending that she was deppressd and Pan, I don't know, there are a lot of fake people on the internet. But I would really appreciate it if Ты broadened your mind.

My confusion remains with how different bi and pan people classify their sexuality, and the main thing I'm coming up with is a certain non-exclusivity when it comes to gender (I'm not even gonna touch the trans issue; I find classifying trans people as a separate gender offensive and unhelpful). And that's what doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see how someone classifying themselves as agender, bigender, what-have-you, changes anything about someone's sexual attraction towards you--this sounds like еще of a personal preference in an individual's dating/sex pool than a biological sexuality, like how some straight women might prefer very masculine men или very feminine men. It doesn't negate their straight-ness based on preferences. If Ты never revealed your gender identity, how would that change the roots of your sexual response to another person?

Example: Say you're a straight man attracted to someone who is obviously female. That same female considers themselves agender, perhaps uses they/them pronouns, etc. Obviously, this man wouldn't know that immediately--all that his sexual preference knows is that they are physically female. Since gender identity is not always physically или outwardly obvious, this is where my confusion lies. If someone would be so kind as to address THAT part (whether gender really, truly, has anything to do with biological sexuality), I would be eager to try and understand. Especially since some are coming to the conclusion that a person's physical sex may или may not factor into their sexuality, which doesn't sound completely scientifically sound to me. But I could be wrong, hence the request for clarification.

To me bisexuality is about sex. It means Ты can work with both penis and vagina in the bedroom. Some people can only work with penis exclusively или vagina exclusively. Some people are asexual. I don't think Ты can even know for certain if Ты are asexual if Ты under the age of 25. It takes time to develop yourself, go out with people, fall in Любовь with someone, learn a bit what turns Ты on. To me that is all there is. All the transgender people that I have known identified as either male или female. Intersexed have both parts. There are literally people born with testes and a vagina. That is a combo of the two. I am mainly talking about sex. Gender used to mean sex. Now is has become to mean gender expression. However, that is purely a social construct. Anyone could really wear any clothes, hairstyle или have any personality. The problem is society labeling these things masculine или feminine. I am bisexual and would go out with a transgendered person. I know this bothers people but sexual orientation has еще to do with what Ты do in the bedroom. People can have romantic feelings towards a lot of people and young people in high school and college will дата all sorts of people. Yet Ты are not going to make a long term relationship/marriage work if Ты can't make it work in the bedroom. Ты have to know at some point if Ты can work with a penis, или a vagina или either. But all sexual orientations want to have relationships. This "pans" only like the сердце is very offensive to everyone else. People do look for personality, intelligence, and common values when looking for a mate. People are also wired to be able to work with penis exclusively, vagina exclusively, или can work with both. Asexual is not sexual или not interested in sex. There are people that masturbate but for what ever reason don't want to have sex. Some people have all kinds of issues socially, depression, aspergers, OCD fear of germs. I don't know. But to me there are only those three orientations and I don't think anyone should be considered to be asexual until at least 25 years old. Kids today are pontificating too much about their sexuality. They need to just do school, have friends, live life and when it happens it will happen. There are other things in life.

Coming from a trans pan
They ARE different
Also, due to past experiences, some people identify as bi cause they are not comfortable being with someone trans
I know people like that

I would recommend watching the video bellow

I actually identify as agender and pansexual and I do find this offensive seeing as bisexual has the word bi qhich means two meaning that they are sexually atrracted to people whom identifyas the two binary genders and i infact do not and i take offence to the fact that Ты believe that there are only two genders in your eyes apparently there are lots and Ты are still putting people in boxs to fit your idea of a 'normal' person and i am also infact 12 so i feel rather offended by that as well because i am not trying to be cool i am not even out i am just myself and seriously I understand your confusion but there is no need to make it sound like Ты are being disrimanatory towards anyone.

I agree with Ты that a transgender IS the sexuality that they become (feel comfortable with) and pan and bi are the same in that sense but pan falls in Любовь mainly for your сердце или personality. They can Любовь anyone and everyone just by what's inside. So in some sense it is very similar to Bisexuality but there are some differences.

I'm going to be blunt here:
Ты are wrong. I am Pan, and I am very offended that Ты don't think my orientation is real.
But seeing as this post is quite old, hopefully Ты have come to your senses by now.

No, Ты are wrong. Pansexuality is real and I identify as it for my sexual orientation. Let me explain why. Bisexual means Ты are attracted to male, female, and nonbinary. Whereas when you're pansexual Ты are attracted to male, female, nonbinary, gender fluid, bigender, gender queer, etc. there are so many genders out there and pansexuality means Ты are attracted to ALL of them. Now, if a bisexual person decided that they were attracted to male, female, nonbinary, and (just a Болталка one) transgender it would make them polysexual meaning they are attracted to еще than two genders but not all the genders. And yes, transgender people do identify as the sex they have changed to but if Ты were dating a straight male and Ты told him Ты used to be a man, chances are he might break it off. Unless he really doesn't care and just loves Ты for Ты then that would make him a demisexual, meaning that he doesn't have a specific sexual orientation and he just loves you. Demisexual meaning "person's name" sexual so he is only attracted to Ты

Its the fact that some bisexual People don't like transgender Men или Women. Pansexuality is where. we really don't care who Ты are.. We just Любовь people for being people. All the stupid things humans do. is just awesome to see. And I kinda hope I speak for all Pansexuals that we are the people who really dont care XD

No. I am pansexual myself and I know for certain that it is not the same as bisexual. Bi means two, however, Pan или omni, because pansexual is also knows as omnisexual, means every или all so therefore they aren't the same.

First off, bi means two and pan means all. So they only like two gender identities whatever those identities are that's there business. Pansexuals like all gender idententies not just two. Pansexuality and bisexuality are two different things and both are equally valid.

I understand that Ты were not trying to be offense but there is a difference between bisexuality and pansexual. To be a bisexual it meaning Ты are able to have feelings for 2 genders but that means any 2 not just male and female. Pansexual is having attraction to males ,females,gender
fluid, agender etc. another reason why there are not the same thing is because there are other sexualities in between bi and pan. For example polysexual is have attraction to 3 или еще genders. Ты can remember because bi means 2, and pan means all

Pansexual means all genders или regardless of gender identity или sexuality. As in nonbinary, agender, demi girls/boys, etc.
Bisexual means attraction to both genders, typically in reference to boys and girls (and of course trans* boys and girls fall under that).
Also, I don't think Ты are in the correct position to determine what sexualities exist and which don't. The sexualities and identities of other people are not a religion which Ты can pick apart and decide which pieces Ты "believe" in.

Pansexuality is real because, bisexual means attraction to 2 genders. Male/female, nonbinary/male, genderqueer/agender, ect, ect. Polysexual means attraction to 2+ genders. Like male/female/agender, Ты get the idea. Pansexual means attraction to all genders. All these genders are different separate genders. If someone says they are Pansexual just because their attracted to trans people, they are being transphobic. Trans people are what they say their gender is. That's that. Pansexual is real.

Well, good to know I don't exist and that my whole being is fake. Thanks for clearing that up :D

Okay. I'm kinda about to rant right now because this post really makes me angry. I am in fact pansexual, but even if I am I'd like to stand up for bisexuals here by saying a few things: NOT EVERY. SINGLE. BISEXUAL. PERSON. IS. BINARIST. Meaning, that although some bisexuals CAN be attracted to just males and females, the term 'bisexual' means attracted to two genders! To identify as bisexual Ты need to think of yourself as a person that is attracted to ONLY TWO genders. That's it. Stop forcing the binary on a whole sexuality, and let every bisexual define themselves and who they like.

Now, back to pansexuality. Before Ты say something stupid, I'll have Ты know that it is humanly possible to be attracted to ALL genders, meaning male,female, and non binary. Note that I didn't put transgenders, because trans men and women are simple MEN and WOMEN. I am sincerely sorry if my Далее sentence seems a but harsh but: Unless Ты are explaining the definition of a sexuality, it is very wrong of Ты to deny the validity of a sexual orientation Ты are not a part of. And I'm not saying because you're ЛГБТ as well Ты have to be all for other ЛГБТ sexualities, but don't Ты think it's a bit еще than a little disrespectful to discriminate against other people who face the same struggle?

Not all bisexuals are binarist.

Pansexuality is a legitimate sexual orientation.

And trans men and women are simply men and women.

Get your fucking facts straight (or gay) enforce Ты talk down on people Ты don't understand. Either that или just stop talking about misunderstood sexualities as a whole.

Thank you, and have a blessed day. 😊

I disagree with Ты that pansexuality and bisexuality are the same. Personally, I see pansexuality as having attraction to any gender. Not just men and women but also people who identify as agender или non gender binary.

Pansexuality is a completely legit sexual orientation and is not the same thing as bisexuality. I see where you're coming from when Ты say that if someone identifies as a gender then they are that gender,which is completely true. However, some people choose not to identify as strictly male или female. Pansexuals can be attracted to these people

Yes, bisexuality and pansexuality are similar but they aren't the same. Bisexuality refers to people who are attracted to 2 genders. Pansexuality refers to people who are attracted to all genders. And by all genders, it doesn't just mean FTM или MTF people, it means all of the genderfluid, demigender, agender, bigender, etc people. There are way еще than 2 genders, so if someone if attracted to еще than 2 genders, they're either poly или pansexual.

Sorry, but I don't agree with Ты at all.
As somebody who identifies as pansexual, I find this whole thing, especially the last part, REALLY OFFENSIVE. I think you're not really looking at it from the right perspective. Bisexuality and pansexuality are two different things.

Well, Ты don't have to be pansexual to like transgender people. Bisexual means that Ты are attracted to two genders, whatever they may be, but pansexual means Ты are attracted to ALL genders.

It does exist even tho we can all have our own opinions my one is bigger bc my best Друзья are pan sexuality bc it is not the same as Bi sexuality i hope Ты understand bc pan is when Ты don't give a fuck about who Ты Любовь thank you

I personally don't agree with your opinion completely I feel if someone is transgender they are the gender they want to be but what about gender fluid and agender? Still agree with the first part but pansexual is a thing. C:

Who do Ты want nonbinary people to date?

No one agrees with you. And what about gender fluid или Agender
Pansexuals are 100% real, Ты say you're gay don't Ты remember
being rejected by someone and being told you're not real?

Ты are wrong there are еще then just male and female, there are Agender people, there are Androgynous people, there are many еще gender identities then just the Core Masculine and Feminine Identities, and I'm Agender, and this is super offensive to people like me, I'm also Pansexual, but that's irrelevant to this Вопрос

Finally someone whose smart and know the truth holy hell man if I meet Ты in real life I'd own Ты a пиво just for being truthful Bi and Pan are the same and Ты shouldn't be scared или not happy to say it it's the truth and people need to except it my two closest Друзья say their Pan and will deny it up and down that Bi and Pan are the same and I've explained it them atleast 100 times and at this point I'm just annoyed at them but I'm hoping when we get out of highschool they'll screw their heads on straight.

One thing to keep in mind is that not all gender identities out there identify as male или female. There are those that feel half and half, или have no gender at all, или their gender changes daily. There are a wide variety of genders that are neither male nor female, bisexuality only includes male and female identifying genders. Also, as a pan/omnisexual it was offensive to hear that because I don't need validation for the Название I give myself. It requires no "beleif" on anyone's part by my own. I am attracted to females males tans genders, gender fluid, non binary and many others

Being a bisexual myself, with a pansexual friend, I'm afraid that Ты offend me. Being bisexual means that Ты are attracted to your own sex, and the opposite sex. For me, I identify as a female, so yes I am attracted to males and females. But someone else might not identify Male или Female. Pansexual attraction, however, is еще personality based, and stretches out across many genders.

As a pansexual female, i'd like to state that I, of course, believe it is real. This is due to the inclusiveness of this term. Whilst bisexuality caters for 2 genders and generally all those who consider themselves to be bi are inclusive of trans people into these 2 genders, pansexuality opens people up to people who believe that they do not fit into the male/female gender.
People who believe the word 'pansexual' makes me feel 'special' are very ignorant. The word pansexual helped me to figure out who i was and it made sure I found a label (because yes we all like to have one to Показать we're not the only ones who feel that way) that truly represented me :)

Ok, so this Вопрос is actually sounding quite ignorant. What you're completely ignoring is all the non-binary genders! We have being agender, gender fluid, and plenty more. The way that pansexuality works is that Ты like all of the genders, whereas bisexual it's just male and female.

No, I do not agree with you. Because I´m not bisexual, I´m pansexual.

First: Are Ты serious?! "m bisexual but I'm too hip to call myself bisexual because it's too mainstream" because on another site I use it seems everyone is supposedly "pansexual" "
Since when is sexuality a mainstream?! Do Ты think people identify theirselves as gay(or another sexuality) just to be "mainstream"?! Are Ты gay because mainstream? I don´t think so!

I know I´m pansexual, because I feel it.
I´m attracted to every sexuality. It´s not just because the transgenders, I identify they the gender they identify as too.
It´s very difficult to explain it, but Pansexuality exist. It´s not bisexual bro :D
Ты can read the nice text on wikipedia about the difference, maybe it will help Ты :))

Have a nice day^^

(I´m not a 12 год old girl too, I´m pansexual and non-binary.)

Pan sexual definition for dummies like the guy who made this post, In a homos relationship with there partner there is the person who receives and the person who gives pan sexual people are gay and straight but they like to give and receive at different times

Bisexual doesn't mean Male and female. There are 4 types of genders. Asexual Male Female and genderfluid. Bisexual meaner Ты feel Любовь towards only two of these genders. Pansexuality means that Ты can Любовь any of them. I identify as Pansexual and these are one of the things that make me mad. Pansexuals do exist and we are not just another name for Bisexual

acctually pansexuality is real, its when your sexually attracted to all genders, while bisexuality is just male and female

To me it doesn't matter what gender Ты are as long as Ты are happy Ты don't need to label yourself
Just be you

what kind of stupid person would agree with this?

Your Вопрос only includes transgenders/sexuals. Ты haven't included intersex, genderfluid или non-binary people.
Being bisexual isn't too "mainstream" for us. We don't identify as bisexual because we're not bisexual. Bisexuality is only between two genders (and those that identify as one gender или the other.) Pansexuality is between any genders.
I hope this clears up your question. -Lexa the DEFINETELY PANSEXUAL NOT BISEXUAL panda.

Ты Показать that Ты have no understanding of Pansexuality AND Bisexuality. Your hypotheses about Pansexuality is wrong. That's not an opinion. It's a fact.

Bisexuality: The Sexual and Romantic attraction to two genders.

Take note. TWO. Bisexuals do not only like Males and Females. They like two genders. It's usually either Females and Males, Males and Non-Binary people или Females and Non-Binary people. Some will be еще specific, (Genderqueer and Females for an example) however this is unusual.

There is an infinate amount of gemders that exist on a spectrum. On one side, there is Male, on the other, Female (These two genders make up the Gender Binary). In the middle there is Agender (genderless). There is an infinate amount of genders inbetween.

Why do I mention this? Simple. Ты need to know at least a little about the gender Binary and Non-Binary to understand Pansexuality.


Pansexuality: The Sexual and Romantic attraction to all genders.

Pansexuals DON'T just like Males, Females, and Transgender people. That is a watered down version often used to come out to non LGBTQ+ people such as parents. Transgender people TRANSition their physical sex from one Binary gender to the other. They can also be Non-Binary

Transgender people have not got a new gender. That's why "transexual" is considered extremely transphobic. They're just people born into the wrong gender.


In other words, Bisexuality =/= Pansexuality.

No, I do not agree. Pansexuality is not "liking men, women, and trans people". Pansexuality is liking people regardless of their gender orientation, while bisexuality is liking two genders, be those male and female, male and queer, etc. I identify as pansexual, have a crush on a guy, and identify as pan because I Любовь him due to his personality and would still Любовь him if he were a she или any other gender orientation. In conclusion, Ты are wrong, as pansexuality is not "pretentious bisexuality" или "confused bisexuality", it is its own sexual orientation. Далее time, try doing so basic research before Ты go around shaming pansexuals. We exist, we are NOT bi, and (at least in my case) do not like being confused as such. Thank you. <drops mic>

Okay, I respect your opinion, but the word "Pan" means "all" and the word "Bi" means "Both". Pansexual people are very real just like bisexual people are. Pansexual people Любовь people regardless of their gender. Bisexual people Любовь both men and women. Some people find it hard to define themselves as either a man или woman. So do some еще research before Ты start saying pansexual isn't real.

I completely agree. Ты make a VERY valid point and I, also being gay, don't think that what you're saying is wrong. Because it is just a way of labelling yourself to be something slightly еще alternative или 'cooler' than bisexual.

Pansexual: Ты subscribe to the ridiculous notion of there being whatever it was 156 different genders modern feminist emotion-interpetation bullshit and Ты don't mind whatever of those your partner is. IF you're this - You're an idiot.

Bisexual: Ты don't subscribe to the notion of the above, you're interested in men или women, that's it.

The whole pseudo-intellectual genderstudy crap is just that, crap.

bisexuality is the liking of two genders. hence the prefix bi. pansexuality takes that a step further with the liking of еще than two genders i.e. not caring about genitalia или gender identity and sexuality. bisexuality is not pansexuality или vice versa. I would never settle to call myself something that I am not for the sake of someone else's ignorance. I would not lie to everyone just to please them. Be who Ты are and be ACCEPTING of EVERYONE. Thousands of people would not identify with a term if it simply "did not exist".

I do not agree with the pansexual terminology because anyway Ты slice it there are still only 2 genders. If Ты are a person that has both male and female parts then Ты are just both in one. That does not make Ты a third gender. Obviously due to this notion any who would be in a relationship with сказал(-а) person would be considered bisexual. I do nother wish to offend anyone in my statement and if I do so I apologize but the identifying yourself as pansexual seems еще like people that want еще individualized attention. I have a 14 год old daughter that claims pansexual its and while her sexually is of no consequence to me, when I asked her if she was SEXUALLY attracted to a hermaphrodite she сказал(-а) she wasn't sexually attracted to anyone. If I were a bisexual I think I would actually be offended by many people's claims to this as it would (to me) downplay all of the struggles that people go through who are of that sexual orientation. I support all lifestyles myself but I do think especially the mainstream need to realize there is a difference between support and being. Again to my original point though at its base all humans still are male and female. Some are both combined and some are one who choose the other...either way it still is just two. I have known many people of many different sexualities and all that I have met have agreed with me that I have met anyways.

No, I don't agree with you. Because I believe there are еще genders than male and female, like the non-binary spectrum and agender. Gender and biological sex are not the same thing. (I have to point this out because I see myself as being attracted to someone's gender, not their sex, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.) Furthermore, pansexuality does not mean a transwoman is different than a real woman или a transman is different than a real man; rather, it means gender doesn't matter at all, with the assumption that there are еще than just two genders. I don't think Ты understand that.

If a person only believes there are two genders then fine, they can just identify as bisexual and be on their merry way. And if Ты don't agree with me and say a person is only attracted to sex, not gender, then also fine. But if a person doesn't care about gender at all and believes there are еще than two genders, then they sure as hell can identify as pansexual. I don't see how that's offensive at all.

Okay so actually bisexuals themselves to cis female and cis male so pansexuals and bisexuals aren't the same thing. I get what your saying about the fact that Ты believe that transgenders are male или female but there are еще genders than what Ты think или believe.

I'm pan so I get this Вопрос a lot. Bisexuality is being attracted to genders in the binary, guy and girl; bi- meaning 2 explains that. This most definitely includes transgender people if they're within the binary. Pansexuals, pan- meaning all, are attracted to all genders, including those not within the binary. This could include people that simply identify as nonbinary as well as genderfluid, transexual, etc.

To clarify, pansexual people are simply attracted to people no matter their gender - the other person could identify as any gender and it wouldn't matter. Bisexuals are attracted to people within the binary, this does not mean that they're discriminating - it's just their preference.

I think most of the confusion comes from people using the terms interchangeably. They have different roots for a reason - they refer to a difference in preferences. Some bisexuals are pan and just don't use that term because they think it's stupid and some pansexuals are actually bi and don't want to exclude people. Just because a lot of people use the terms interchangeably does not mean they're the same thing and it's not really fun hearing al the time about how I'm just trying to be special или whatever. I just prefer something slightly different than Ты and I want to clearly communicate that with people I could potentially date.

This is not true at all, no disrespect. The definition of pansexual is that Ты are attracted to all different gender identities. What Ты are saying about trans people is true, that they are what ever gender they identify as. However, Ты are basically saying that the only gender identities are the genders they are born with and trans people. But this is not true at all. Ты are completely disregarding agender, gender fluid and non-bianary gendered people. Also if Ты are bisexual Ты are only attracted to people that are their biological gender it may not be right but it's true. If Ты are attracted to trans people Ты would identify as pansexual или polysexual. And honestly saying that a sexuality 'does not exist' is disrespectful. I'm not trying to be rude but these are facts :)

I find this post offensive. If Ты say no offense, that doesn't make it not offensive.
Ты cannot say that Pansexuality offends you, because it is a sexual orientation. I cannot chose what sexual orientation I have. It shouldn't offend you, Ты have no reason to be offended. That is a hurtful thing to say. Also, Pansexuality and bisexuality are not the same. Pansexuality includes men, woman, gender fluid, intersex, agender, ect. It basically states that Любовь is love, and that people should be able to Любовь anyone, regardless of gender, because what does that matter? Also, by definition, pansexuality means that Ты Любовь all genders equally (Of course, this is different for all people). Bisexuality is loving men and women. It is also important to note that people can be bisexual and pansexual. I understand this is just a question, but why does it have to be phrased this way? the LGBTQ+ community is supposed to respect and support eachother, no hate included.

I honestly don't think anyone knowledgeable enough would agree with you. In fact, I personally would take great offense to that idea. to delegitimize any sexuality is wrong, and to subjugate you're own meaning of gender is even worse; NOW i'm not saying you're a bad person, but the whole idea that sexuality is SOLELY binary is one that is incoherent with reality

I signed up just to agree with you. I'm sorry to burst your bubble everyone else that says their offended from someones opinion, but I believe there are only two genders. And if Ты bring up hermaphrodites please stop and think. Being born as a hermaphrodite is a birth defect and NOT a third gender. Feelings don't make up what Ты are, like race, if Ты feel like your black but your skin is asian или white Ты are clearly not black just because Ты feel like it. I've learned to be accepting of people even though I don't agree with them but this is just something that can't exist. It just doesn't exist, there are two genders, but it really isn't hurting anyone since it is the same thing as bisexuality. I don't care what Ты all think because it doesn't really change anything.

yes Ты are aloud to have your own opinion and any opinion is right well at least if it makes sense but the meaning of bisexual is liking male female или еще then one but not all of them and pansexuality means u don't care about the gender and is commonly suggested as gender blindness as though i am pansexual and i support your opinion because it doesn't matter that u don't have the same as mine hope u understand my opinion