(1)Should bestiality be illegal? (2)What is the difference between bestiality/Zoophilia and homosexuality?

I was Чтение this Дебаты [ link /debates/Bestiality- should-be-illegal/4/ ] . This Вопросы popped up in my mind. Can Ты give a detailed answer to make this clear to me? Thanks :)
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I don't what's wrong with the link. I put it correctly.. There is something wrong with fanpop.
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There are a few spaces between the characters in the link. Try deleting those.
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whiteflame55 said:
So there are two arguments to be had here, one of which is only tackled partially in the argument Опубликовано against beastiality, the other gets underexplained. He does make another argument about offspring, but I don't find it very convincing.

So the first and easiest to explain is health. The argument about penile cancers may be true, but I express similar doubts to the responding poster. The bigger problem is zoonotic disease. I didn't have to look far to find out what we're looking at:

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Yeah, it's Wikipedia, but it's well supported. Generally, we view the introduction of new disease into the human population as dangerous. I'd say there's two major harms here that extend beyond the individual in question. Rearrangements of viral genomes and acquired genetic capabilities in bacteria are a very big deal, resulting in many of the scourges we deal with today. This is especially bad if they're transmitted beyond that person. While all of these diseases are transmitted sexually, many have other routes available that are less common, yet remain important in this circumstance. But the reality is that no change in genomics need occur. Higher prevalence in humans of zoonotic disease is inherently bad. The vast majority of new disease in humans comes from animal sources and can be spread widely. HIV, for example, isn't all that different from its simian counterpart, SIV. And their sexual spread will likely not end with these relationships, as many humans will also be engaged in sexual relations with other humans.

The секунда argument, the one not well explained, is this idea of consent. We use consent in a lot of ways to judge whether something is alright to do, whether we're talking about sex или scientific experiments. We do a lot to Животные through coercion, not taking their will или choice into account. I would say that this is another way to utilize their inability to consent for personal pleasures. An animal, with few exceptions, lacks methods to communicate their desires accurately, and even in the case that they can, we cannot be certain that they understand their own decision well enough to make it. For these animals, it does come down to a similar situation as with pedophilia, and that gets еще complex. So let's focus on the ones that cannot adequately communicate their views. One might struggle to call it rape, but it bears little of the certainty that comes with a consentual relationship as seen with two adults. Until we can know their Просмотры for certain, we cannot possibly know whether they're active partners with full knowledge of the situation, willing participants who simply don't understand the situation but accept it, или victims of sexual assault. And we shouldn't assume any of them. That uncertainty, however, shouldn't lead to action on the part of a human being, who shoulders the burden of adhering to the need for confirmation and full consent.
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It's an interesting debate, by the way, though I think a lot of the arguments on each side are faulted. The Pro argument isn't explaining the specific harms of zoonotic disease very well, nor is he making it clear that the specific addition of еще diseases to a population is linearly bad. His ethical argument isn't very straightforward either, and I think he complicates it in many ways that he doesn't have to. Con is responsive but is making a lot of arguments that aren't directly addressing the issues at hand, and his arguments about ethics are even еще convoluted and difficult to follow.
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Yep, all good
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Chaann94 said:
Yes, it should be illegal because the animal can't consent with the sexual acts. And it's also partially protecting the bestialists или however they're called, since Ты have no idea what kind of bacteria/viruses they could get in/on their genitals.

Also the difference between bestiality and homosexuality is that homosexuality is a relationship between two people of the same sex who can both consent.

I can't believe how many times people compare homosexuality with unconsential relationships. I've seen Вопросы like this multiple times. I've even heard people say; "but pedophilia is just like homosexuality". Well, no, because in pedophilia there is a lack of consent. I'm not part of the ЛГБТ community myself, which is for the better to me because I wouldn't be able to handle all the crap people even think of posting/saying these days.
Sorry for that rant, but I felt like it had to be said.
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Violet_Shade said:
1) Yes, bestiality shoul be illegal. The animal cannot consent and in some cases it can end up killing the animal.
2) Homosexuality is loving those of the same gender, and bestiality is sexually assaulting an animal, and they cannot consent.
I cannot believe people compare the two, and I for one am part of the ЛГБТ community(i'm bisexual).
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Renarimae said:
I think bestiality should be illegal because Животные have no capability of consent to sex with humans, which means that all bestiality is rape.
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