Диснеевские принцессы Countdown: Which Дисней Princess is the LEAST charitable and selfless? Round 2

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24 fans picked:
Merida
   46%
Elsa
   21%
жасмин
   13%
Tiana
   8%
Rapunzel
   8%
Мулан
   4%
Snow White
no votes yet
Золушка
no votes yet
Aurora
no votes yet
Belle
no votes yet
Pocahontas
no votes yet
Anna
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audreygrace412 picked жасмин:
Round 1 Elimination: Ariel

There was a tie in the last round between Elsa and Ariel, but 2 comments to eliminate as well as keep Elsa but 3 comments to eliminate Ariel and none to keep her so that served as the tie-breaker. :)
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audreygrace412 picked жасмин:
Trying to give the apple to the homeless kids was an act of charity. Using her position as the "Princess" and turning herself in, in order to save Aladdin was also an act of charity and selflessness somewhat. That was pretty much all I can think of. All of the other DPs showed more acts of charity and selflessness to me.
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anukriti2409 picked Tiana:
I can't remember Tiana doing any acts of charity, except in the very end when she gave up her dream to be just with Naveen but that was also not entirely selfless because she wanted Naveen more than her dream then.

I'd say supporting Aladdin to stay who he was and rather free Genie, knowing she won;t be able marry him because of his lower social status. I thought that was pretty selfless.
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audreygrace412 picked жасмин:
Here is what I can think of for Tiana: Teaching Naveen how to cut the vegetables so that he could pride himself on learning a skill and doing something himself was an act of charity. Not giving into Facilier's demands and not wanting to stand in the way of Charlotte getting her prince were both acts of selflessness.

Merida: Sneaking the dessert to her triplet brothers was kind of an act of charity or selflessness. Technically, teaching her mother how to fish and eat for herself was also an act of charity. Giving up her own selfish desires and offering to marry before she was ready as well as standing in between her father and mother (in bear form) were acts of selflessness.
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3xZ picked Elsa:
@audreygrace412, how could you say Ariel has 3 comments when I only saw 2? See it link.

Same comment as before. Plus, at first she forbid Anna to marry Hans and yet in the climax she asked him to take care of her sister. What's the meaning of that if not at first she didn't want Anna to be happy because she wasn't. But when she found her own happiness she let her sister do anything she wants.
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Sparklefairy375 picked Tiana:
What anukriti said.
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audreygrace412 picked жасмин:
3xZ, it looks like someone deleted their comment as there had been 3 before and now there are only 2. That being said, there are still 2 comments to eliminate (by 3xZ & wavesurf) as well as keep Elsa (by audreygrace412 & anukriti2409) but 2* comments to eliminate Ariel (by audreygrace412 & anukriti2409) and none to keep her.

If you prefer me to do a separate tiebreaker poll, I can do that but some points to address first is the concern of poll rigging by votes. Also, Elsa isn't polling the highest in this next round - which would've shown more that she was chosen legitimately in the last round. Furthermore, unfortunately you are the only one so far who has commented on Elsa being eliminated, which also concerns me that Elsa was not legitimately chosen last round as I would expect multiple users to vote for her again and/or comment in this round. (Just to be clear, I don't believe you are involved in the rigging whatsoever, I am not blaming you in any way, just trying to explain my concerns and though process.)
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audreygrace412 picked жасмин:
Any one have any reasons for Merida?
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3xZ picked Elsa:
Never mind, audreygrace412, I wasn't forcing you to create a tiebreaker poll or whatsoever. It's so pathetic to know that you have the slightest thought to think I'm rigging it. I'm just curious why do you eliminate her and now you've explained it. Although it's funny when you have no clear evidence that in the previous poll there had been 3 comments for Ariel, you just simply said that someone deleted their comment. Are you sure that you did not mistakenly counted mhs1025's comment for Ariel? You know, their names and the icons are pretty similar.

So I guess the elimination process of yours is that the almost-eliminated princess might be kept if someone defend her (if the percentages are tied). Well, that's hard for me since I'm not the type of person who love to defend the princesses when they are offended. In short, I respect others' opinions too much. To end this matter (FYI, this 'Elsa and her super selflessness scene' has happened thousand times, wonder why), I won't bother you any more.
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audreygrace412 picked жасмин:
3xZ, I am so sorry for the confusion but judging by your response, I think you have completely misunderstood me so I hope you will allow me to try and better explain. For the sake of trying to make this as clear and organized as possible, I will number points to you just because I think it might help me explain better so I hope you will not mind:

1. I did not take it as you forcing me to create a tie breaker poll at all, I was asking your opinion on whether or not I should. Since you brought it up, I was just asking what your opinion was and letting you know why I didn't post a tie-breaker and listed the concerns why.

2. I specifically did not want you to take my concerns about the polls possibly rigged as having anything to do with you and I was afraid you might take it that way when that was not what I meant in the slightest. As you will see, I have not edited the comment since originally posted and I had originally said "Just to be clear, I don't believe you are involved in the rigging whatsoever, I am not blaming you in any way, just trying to explain my concerns and though process." I am not quite sure how else to say this or if you just think I am being insincere here but all I can do is promise you that it never crossed my mind once or in the slightest that you were ever doing anything wrong whatsoever and I never wanted you to think that. I was actually trying to go out of my way to make this point and I am sorry that there was still some confusion.

3. I don't think it's funny that I have no clear evidence which is why when I posted my response to yours, I did include the names next to comment counts so that there would be written proof this time. I apologize that I did not screen-cap the comment section in the last poll as I did not think there would be any debates about it but I had no negative intentions. That is why when you voiced your concern, I never said you were wrong nor tried to dismiss you or your claims in anyway. I responded to you by immediately checking and updating my "tie breaker" formula and asking you if you still wanted a tie-breaker, as I was trying to show you respect by asking what you thought was fair as a participating voter.

4. No, I cannot be sure that I did not mistakenly count mhs1025's comment for Ariel though I highly doubt it as I remember double checking all of the numbers and counting to see what was going on as I was trying to figure out if there was any poll rigging or not, mainly due to the way results have been coming out of the "physically attractive" countdown where Jasmine keeps getting votes to be eliminated but hardly any comments and most people commenting they think she's one of the top beauties. I apologize for anything that may seem confusing as I am just trying to find a way that is fair to as many users participating as possible. If people don't voice their concerns, then I cannot address them. I was happy that you voiced your concern which is why I asked for your suggestions and let you know my concerns. It was never meant to be taken as any kind of negative.

5. Not at all. My elimination process is this:

a) The person with the most votes to be eliminated gets eliminated unless there are literally zero comments on the subject as that is suspicious to me that the majority could choose something and yet no one comment about it. In that case, I will eliminate the person with the next most amount of votes who has a coment, especially when they have 3+ comments to eliminate them instead anyways.
*This is in part because they will all become articles afterwards and I need your guys' comments to explain the eliminations.*

b) In the event of a tie, like the last round in question, I usually post a tie-breaker. Unfortunately, when I did this with the "physically attractive" countdown, it made me think the polls are being rigged as there was a very suspicious pattern emerging. It's a lot to explain but you can see my explanations link, link and link. You will see people's responses to the situation continuing to go on link.

In addition, when I ask for feedback, I don't tend to get too much so I really have to depend on someone like you to voice their concern, which I want, so you can let me know any ways that I can improve.

c) Since the 'new poll for tie-breakers' didn't go so well with the "physically attractive" rounds, I thought it would be better to just let the comments serve as a tie breaker, which was a suggestion offered by one of the users participating in these poll countdowns that I thought was clever.

So again, I never meant any disrespect or offense or negativity in any way. So far, when anyone gives me a tip to improve, I take it seriously and I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

6. Since the concept of the countdown is to do an elimination process, I think it's respectful to hear people's opinions on why they think someone is the "weakest link", so to say for this elimination round as well as why they think someone is being misunderstood. Sometimes hearing a new perspective changes people's minds and I wanted people to feel comfortable and respectful giving their opinions both ways. I do not personally see it as being disrespectful to give an explanation as to why someone should not be eliminated yet but I completely respect your perspective and choice to see it as a disrespectful move. That being said, I don't think that people giving those opinions are meaning it to be disrespectful and I think it would be disrespectful for me to assume their intent without knowing it. I wanted this to encourage all opinions so we could get to know about all of the DPs from all perspectives. I didn't see anyone disrespecting each other but if I have missed something then please let me know so I can better understand.

7. I don't really know what you meant when you said "To end this matter (FYI, this 'Elsa and her super selflessness scene' has happened thousand times, wonder why)"

8. But you were never bothering me! I am so sorry that you ever felt that way and I am sorry that my explanation before was not clear enough. I sincerely hope this explanation helps you better understand and if you have any suggestions for me, please do not ever feel like you are bothering me as I am more than open to changing whatever needs to be changed and welcome suggestions to improve! I just want to be fair to as many people as possible, that is my goal.
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