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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Дисней Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the день pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, или what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Дисней Princess, i.e. no formal платье, бальное платье and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps еще realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then Ты check out the DP club on Fanpop, and Ты find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The Источник of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that Ты find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Дисней Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced или too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is еще critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does Показать a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, или how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often сказал(-а) that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, или impossibly positive. We need something еще convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Дисней Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Дисней poking fun at itself, but it can rub Фаны the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down by the Название of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal Название или other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The еще I think about it, the еще I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, Ты don't need to be a princess to save the день или to be someone important или worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, Ты think you're better than the Дисней Princesses, is that right?" или "Yeah, the princess Название is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then Показать us that сказал(-а) character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their Последнее Видео and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Дисней heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why Фаны can have such opposing Просмотры on other characters, like Ariel или Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued by other fans.
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This is the секунда time I've done this. Well, it's been changed yet again, and.. A lot. So, I might as well re-do it, there's been some pretty big changes since I last made this article. Some placements have changed a lot, and some have stayed around the same, so you'll find out soon which placements have changed and which havent. Anyways, please keep in mind that this is my opinion, and we may disagreement so respect my opinion and I will respect yours. I hope Ты enjoy the article! :)

And I really want to know what Ты think about my list, so if Ты could comment, it would mean a lot!


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posted by BraBrief
 Bra Brief from Dragon Ball GT.
Bra Brief from Dragon Ball GT.
I've been on Fanpop and Дисней Princess Club since April 2011, but I've never introduced myself properly. My name is Vera, in my mother tongue my name means "faith", while in italian it means "real/true". I was born on December 15th 1988, so I'm 25, my zodiac sign is Sagittarius and my Chinese sign is Dragon (love it! so majestic). I studied languages and economy in high school (Disney Фильмы helped me a lot to improve my english). I speak serbian, italian, english and a little bit of french. Currently I'm working as employee.
 On the left Belgrade, my hometown; on the right Trieste, where I currently live.
On the left Belgrade, my hometown; on the right Trieste, where...
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posted by avatar_tla_fan
I recently moved Elsa up a lot on my list, so I decided I would make an Статья talking about my opinions on her.
I'll be going over multiple categories here:
Thoughts when I first saw the movie.
Opinion now.
Where she ranks on my lists (prettiest, favorites, Пение voice etc.)


So let's start! Keep in mind that this is just my opinion ones a, so respect my opinion and I'll respect yours.

Enjoy the article! :)




My opinions on her overall:
When I first saw the movie. I liked her.. But it was just that. She wasn't one of my favorites, and she wasn't exactly a special character. I didn't hate her,...
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posted by avatar_tla_fan
I have seen that some people think that Rapunzel is a bad role model, so I thought I would give my opinion on this. Anyways, keep in mind that this is what I think she's a good role model, Ты may find different traits better in a role model. Anyways, enjoy the article!



I'll be discussing that I think Rapunzel is a good role model, and is not a stupid character.


This Will Contain Spoilers of the Movie Tangled.
Let's start with the beginning of the movie.

I've seen Rapunzel has been criticized for NOT walking out on her mother. Well, I have two reasons why I don't understand why people would...
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Well, today I'm going to analyze the movie Tangled. This will include taking my opinion, the public's opinion, the critic's opinion.. Etc. To analyze the movie, and find out how people feel about it.




My Opinion
I think this movie is absolutely amazing. I adore Rapunzel, she's my Избранное Дисней Princess, and I Любовь Flynn too, he's my секунда Избранное Дисней Prince. Mother Gothel is one of my Избранное villains, so of course I would Любовь a movie if I loved the characters. I also Любовь the plot of the story, I don't think it's that simplistic, although I know people say that. Despite what people...
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posted by quishy11
This isn't in order of what I like, this is the order they are shown in the movie.

1. The Rags
Am I the only one who likes this? I think it's cute how she is Показ off her dress like she thinks it looks good. Of course it looks ridiculous when it's all bunched up, but after it smooths out, I think it's pretty. White is probably the best color on Ariel (besides her green fishtail and purple seashells). I wouldn't like it as clothing, but it's the first thing she wears, and only for a few minutes, I think it looks good on her.

2. The розовый Dress
Of course this one clashes with her hair. But I...
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posted by avatar_tla_fan
Sorry this took me a little longer than the other ones. I originally planned to remake my Избранное Дисней Princess Пение Voices. About halfway though it, I decided to go to this and return to the other one later. It will be up within a день или two, hopefully. Anyways, Мулан is my personal Избранное Дисней Princess movie (currently) and I know that it's Популярное with most on fanpop, so I decided that this would be the movie soundtrack I would do next. Anyways, please keep in mind that this is my opinion, and we may disagree, so respect my opinion and I'll respect yours. Enjoy the Article! :)





These...
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posted by avatar_tla_fan
This fanfic will not have ANYTHING to do with the movie, it's just the characters that remain the same. Rapunzel will have her brown hair though, if anyone cares.


Rapunzel had not seen Merida in two years.

Merida was Rapunzel's best friend.

And last, they were going to see each other again, for the first time in two years.

Let the story begin..


Rapunzel was anxious.
What if Merida isn't the same? Rapunzel thought, What if she's different? What if....


Stop questioning yourself.


Merida will be the same person she was when Ты saw her two years ago.



Rapunzel saw Merida approaching, but when she was...
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Forgive the confusing title, dearies ;) So, based (although let's face it copied) off of coolsinger198's article, written a few months ago, this is an Статья on which DP us fanpoppers have as our favorite. I'll Показать each Дисней Princess, write a little Описание about them, and then put the Фаны who have the princess as their избранное :) Anna and Elsa not included, by the way. So, let's get started!

Snow White
The princess who started it all, Snow White seems like just an adorable, sweet little princess, but be warned! Under a layer of sugary sweetness and baby animal helping tendencies,...
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So, I made a Опрос counting down the smartest Дисней Princess and it's time to find put who will be the smartest Дисней Princess! Please keep in kind that it isn't my opinion, it's the opinion of the Fanpop users. Enjoy the article! :)
Also, for some Комментарии I had to shorten или change them.







13. Anna

 She didn't get much education, right? Especially since she was isolated for no reason and desperate for love. Nobody told her she can't judge a person so fast. - Manu962
She didn't get much education, right? Especially since she was isolated for no reason and desperate for love. Nobody told her she can't judge a person so fast. - Manu962


I figured she'd be down near the bottom, and it looks like I was right about that. Overall, a lot of people agreed that she...
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So, I'm going to be ranking about how I feel the Анимация is in the Дисней Princess movies, I'll be ranking them worst to best, but I will be SEPERATING the computer animated films from the hand drawn ones. I'm going to start with the computer animated ones first because there's less of them and the real countdown is the hand-drawn ones.

Anyways, as I usually say, this is my opinion, so please respect it and I'll respect yours, because it's likely that we'll disagree.

Enjoy the article! :)

So let's start it off:

The Films That Are Computer Animated


3. Brave


I Любовь the Анимация in this movie,...
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 The Дисней Princess Villains Lineup.
The Disney Princess Villains Lineup.
So this was originally a вверх 10 list, and I still have villains 10-7 sitting around in my drafts, but they're not going to be picked up for an article, maybe they will some other time. Honestly, I don't actually like THAT MANY of the Дисней Princess villains, there's only 7 that I actually like, and only about 5 that I love. So I'm only going to do my вверх 5!
Anyways, because I still wanted everyone to know my placements anyway, I'm going to Показать Ты 12-6.
12. Mordu
11. Hans
10. Governor Ratcliffe
9. Gaston
8. Shan-Yu
7. Evil Queen
6. Jafar
Anyways, please keep in mind that this is MY opinion, and that...
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Source: http://harkentothis.blogspot.com/2014/01/in-depth-movie-analysis-frozen.html
It's been over a год since I last wrote this Статья so here's an updated Список with Anna and Elsa included

12. Jasmine

Like I did in my Назад Статьи I decided to seperate жасмин and Мулан because even though Lea Salonga did both their Пение voices they're different enough to seperate. Anyway I've never been a Фан of Jasmine's Пение voice, it's too мак for my taste

11. Belle

Another voice I've never been a big Фан of although I'm starting to like her voice a little more, but it's still not a very pretty Пение voice to me and the voice is too old for Belle

10. Ariel
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posted by CRaZy_rawR
kk, so almost all the redesigns are blehhh, but I felt like talking about them, so yeh. btw, I didn't include Merida bc she wasn't redesigned when everyone else was originally redesigned, and no Anna или Elsa for obvi reasons.


10. Rapunzel

Okay, so I Любовь Rapunzel's beauty in her film, and that's one of the main reasons I am so harsh on her redesign.. It's freaking terrible like.. x__x Her eyes are all trippy, not to mention her face shape. NO ONE'S MOUTH IS THAT LONG, LET ALONE RAPUNZEL. As for the outfit, it definitely is waaay too sparklified, like most of the redesigns.



. Pocahontas

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Today, I will bring Ты my DP list, arranged from my least Избранное princesses to my most Избранное princesses. But I will do this in a descriptive fashion. I will give Ты a sort of stream-of-consciousness Письмо of DP thoughts.

Ready? Here we go.

The Least Proactive Princesses: These two princesses are both whiny. One has very bad self-control issues tied with her cryokinetic powers ( the child abuse that she suffered as a kid did not help her), while the other was simply lied to, until she came of age. Both respond by throwing tantrums in the face of their problems.

13. Elsa “My parents...
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