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posted by SpecialAgentKat
*I used to like Twilight until I started really Чтение it and it seemed like the еще I heard или read into it, the еще negative things I would find. This is coming from an unbiased point of view; Me being a Фан of Harry Potter has nothing to do with my opinion.


Why I hate Twilight and think it is a bad example of love:
•     Bella is incredibly disrespectful, insensitive, and rude to her own parents. She even calls them by their first names. She thinks her dad is a ‘dumb*** and constantly says he can’t look after himself and she calls her own mother an idiot all because Renee (her mom) was enjoying planning Bella’s wedding. Seriously; It’s quite rude considering they Любовь her and just wants to make sure she is безопасно, сейф and happy.
•    Bella is way too needy, clingy, and dependent on her first boyfriend. Seriously, she doesn’t do anything without consulting him and she wants to be with him FOREVER without really realizing what she’s agreeing to.
•    When Edward breaks up with her, she tries to kill herself several times, not the best example right there.
•    Edward either hides, takes, или destroys all of Bella’s possessions that would remind her of him without even telling или asking her first.
•    While she’s supposedly in Любовь with Edward, she also has feelings for Jacob.
•    Also, Bella hates everything, constantly complains about everything, and generally has no enthusiasm for life but she is still Популярное and still everyone wants to be around her. Seriously, Explain that for me please!
•    When Edward saves Bella from being crushed to death in Twilight, she doesn’t even thank him. She just wants to know how he moved so quickly seriously he just SAVED your life.
•    While Bella is praised as ‘mature’ and ‘independent’, she listens to every word Edward says and does almost whatever he says.
•    Edward and Alice, especially often does things without informing Bella first. They throw her lavish birthday parties which they know she hates and they tend to give her expensive gifts which they also know she despises. Edward tries to control her life including her friendships and her future. Several of the Cullens even try to abort her baby without even asking или even informing her of the fact beforehand.
•    When Edward или anyone else gives Bella a gift, she complains about the entire gift-giving process instead of being grateful или thanking the person.
•    Bella’s entire life revolves around Edward and she never does anything without him. She has no outside interests and hobbies. She has no thoughts on her future или college, she just wants Edward. She also rarely talks to her so called ‘best friends.’
•    She is constantly called careful, cautious, and responsible and she even sees herself that way, she not only tries to kill herself, wants to become a vampire for a guy and doesn’t even think it through; she also wants to lose her virginity to a guy who could very well kill her if he loses control. Seriously girl; think it through a little!
•    Edward is apparently the perfect guy; but he is actually pushy, nosy, creepy, and even abusive both physically and emotionally.
•    It also promotes that aging is terrible and should be avoided at all costs. Seriously, not possible.
•    Bella also tries to force Edward into having *** with her when he clearly doesn’t want to and just wants to wait. It is slutty and sexually abusive which is so wrong.
•    He wants to kill his own baby and even abandons his pregnant and often ill young wife.
•    Bella is pretty nasty to her human Друзья who are supposed to be her ‘best friends’. She often ignores them, is rude to them, или invites them places and either doesn’t Показать up или completely ignores them. Seriously, Bad friend!
•    Her mind can’t be read by Вампиры which does not make sense because she’s supposedly just a normal human girl. She’s apparently the only one who does have that ability.
•    When Bella moves to Forks in the beginning, she apparently has all of the guys falling over her but in Phoniex, she had no Друзья and was completely ignored. What happened and why is Forks so different?
•    She is clumsy and it’s made out to be a disability.
•    When she’s turned, she is easily able to control her instincts and desire for blood which newly turned Вампиры can never do.
•    The Книги are also pretty sexist; Bella doesn’t do anything besides wait for a man (i.e Edward) to tell her what to do and she sacrifices and changes her entire life just for him.
•    The Книги constantly promote that romantic Любовь is еще powerful than any other kind of love. For example, Bella is еще than willing to give up her family, Друзья and never see или speak to them again with VERY LITTLE remorse или even consideration.
•    During the entire series, Bella uses Jacob. She coaxes information out of him, kisses him and then rejects him, she uses him as a free mechanic and even right before she gets married; she holds his hand and then kisses him. That’s a really nasty and mean way to treat the guy who is in Любовь with you, she’s just leading him on and anybody would tell Ты that's just not okay.
•    All of the characters in Twilight are way too perfect, even the evil ones are. They have no faults или interesting personality quirks besides Bella is ‘clumsy’.
•    There’s very little humor in the Книги and the ones do joke like Jacob или Emmet, it is usually very stupid and immature.
•    Bella is seriously the typical ‘damsel in distress’. She does nothing and constantly has to be saved. We have come way too far to actually allow that to happen.
•    How did Edward and Bella fall in love? For the first half of the book; he is rude, arrogant, moody, patronizing, and sends her mixed messages. It’s definitely not Edward’s personality that wins her over. Also, how does Edward fall in Любовь with Bella. She doesn’t do anything particually interesting and she’s quite rude to him and everyone else.
•    Bella is apparently super intelligent. She Цитаты Shakesphere, reads classic novels, listens to old classical music, and gets вверх grades in school but she never actually studies.
•    The Автор tends to glamorize depression and suicide; they are both shown to be interesting and dramatic. Seriously, Insensitive and it’s not interesting at all.
•    She’s perfectly okay with being turned into a vampire but when Edward proposes, she freaks out and yells no. Her reasoning is that marriages don’t last forever, they could get a divorce. On the other hand, becoming a vampire is eternal commitment.
•    I also hate the fact that Stephenie Meyer portrays all humans to be weak, defenseless, and unable to take care of themselves.
•    She also only has 1 standard for beauty and all other kinds of beauty are ignored. The Автор seems to have forgotten that EVERYONE is different and not everyone looks the same including the most beautiful people in the world.
(Seriously, If Ты don't believe me; reread the way she describes Bella and the Cullen girls-all the same; slim, athleticly built, beautiful hair, no physical flaws)
The Автор is constantly interrupting serious thoughts in the book to just randomly praise Edward’s body. Creepy!
•    The Книги plotlines are hard to follow and are often messy and illogical.
•    Seriously, The Книги has some of the worst grammar and spelling mistakes I’ve ever seen.

•    Even the series own author, Stephanie Meyer admits she doesn’t like her own series which she wrote. Also, Robert Pattinson who plays Edward wishes he had never done the series, does not want to be remembered for ever doing it and even called the Автор insane.
posted by harrypotterbest
There is, in the world, a girl called Z-----. еще commonly known on this website as Best, that is the name that shall be used for this anti story.
Now, when best was 11 years old, she had read all the Harry Potter books, and loved them. I’m talking about waiting for her Hogwarts acceptance letter to come and carving wands. She truly loved the series. In 2009, she went to a wedding. Her aunt there had read the Harry Potter books, except for the last one. She also had a cousin there, who was a huge Фан of Twilight. Now, at that time, best hadn’t read Twilight. Her aunt was also a huge fan...
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posted by harrypotterbest
As Edward and Harry settled the final means of the battle, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny had a talk.
“Who wrote this rubbish?” asked Ron. “Sparkle in the sun, battle with debate, they don’t even drink proper blood!”
Hermione, as usual, was the one to answer. “Ron, everyone knows Stephanie Meyer wrote this ‘rubbish.’ She’s not a very good writer, according to The Daily Prophet, and for once I agree with them,” Hermione rolled her eyes. “At least OUR writer, the brilliant J K Rowling, didn’t make US sparkle in the sun. What nonsense!”
“Do Ты know where this Meyer person...
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I'm tired of repeating myself and other HP Фаны repeating themselves constantly so here is my opinion on why Harry Potter is better. So Ты don't think I'm being biased, let me tell you: I read Harry Potter when I was 5 and have been a Фан since (and that shuts down the Комментарий that little kids can't read it by the way) and when I was 13, I read Twilight (before the bandwagon) and loved it. Then just recently, I got off the Twilight High. So I know how it is to have liked Twilight and to like Harry Potter.

First, we can look at the authors. JK Rowling is the epitome of Rag to Riches. She started...
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posted by NataliaLidia
i persenally dont like ether series and heres why!!!

books
twilight
1) i am a reel vampire and i do not sparkl!!! stephanie shud have серовато-коричневый, dun, дун her reasearch before she wrote a book about vampires!!!
2) bella is a bad roll model!!!
4) edwerd is abusiv!!!
5) its unrealistic!!!
6) its badly writen!!!
7) edwerd is describd to much!!! it gets boring!!!
8) its boring overall!!!

harry potter
1) its not relatble!!!
2) its made for kids!!!
3)harry always beets te bad guy!!! he never looses!!!
4) harry gets away wit everything in skool!!!
5) they hav bad frends!!! ron leaves nd dosnt stay wit harry when peeps make fun of him!!!
6) its boring!!!
7) snape keeps his job even tho he bullys students nd is a deth eater!!!
8) dumbledoor doesnt reely care about harry!!! he leaves him at da durslys even tho they are abusiv!!!

movies
both Фильмы hav bad actors nd the filmers didnt follows the boks the way they were suposed to!!!
posted by HaleyDewit
Bella
My name is Bella and there’s something I need to tell
I’m dating this cute vampire, he’s just hot as hell
He’s fascinated by my none existing mind
And I fall apart whenever I stare in those liquid topaz eyes

Edward
My name is Edward and there’s something I need to say
Bella’s gonna freak when she finds out I’m gay
But I can clearly understand what she sees in me
Because have Ты ever met someone this perfectly

Bella
I used to live in Phoenix, but now moved to this rainy place
I keep whining about it and I always have the same expression on my face
I’m just a little girl who’s helpless...
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Okay. I know what Ты are all thinking. Oh no not another Harry Potter vs. Twilight Статья but yes I am making one because I can. I just want my opinion to be heard. So first off let me Список the reasons why children, teens and adults can Любовь Harry Potter and the good messages that Harry Potter gets across. Harry Potter first of all teaches people about the very special bond between people called friendship. Harry, Hermione and Ron are a perfect example of friendship. They are all with Harry until the very end like they promised. They risk their lives for each other and even though they fight,...
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1. Присоединиться an orchestra.
[i] You're inside, anyway.....

2. Присоединиться an opera.
He has a good voice...right?

3. Go to a tanning salon.
Who wants to be pale all their life?

4. Leave home.
You're a hundred and something and STILL living with your parents. How does that feel?

5. Travel.
Yeah, the sparkling thing pops that bubble a bit, but what are parasols for?

6. Discover...SUNSCREEN.
It protects Ты from the sun. Shocking, eh?

7. Begin a knitting business.
Creativity is key. Ты can still stay inside, and make money. Plus, Ты make Друзья with the rest of the sweet little old people in the knitting club.

8.Start...
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I'm adressing the rabid Twilight Фаны if they would listen. I'm also adressing the common Фаны of both sides of this debate.

There are some things one may and may not do in a formal Дебаты unless one wants to look like - pardon the language - a freaking donkey.

Nr 01: One may not argue against the debaters points by attacking him или her. This is called argumentum ad hominem and is a fallacy. For example: If I am to argue that free elections is wrong and states that the arguer is an imbecile that does not deserve the right to vote, then I have committed a severe personal attack and will be frowned...
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posted by Athiya
Many of Ты might have noticed that the golden trio from Harry Potter (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) had always been paired up to fight with the not-so-golden trio of Twilight (Edward, Jacob, and Bella). Now, XDRoseLuvsHP had pointed out a great deal on why HP trio would win against the Twilight's (you can find it link), so I figured perhaps it's time for the villains to battle.

My first thought was off course, James and Voldemort; but then, it didn't seem fair on the Twilight side. James was not a very good villain; his character was poorly underdeveloped and his powers weren't very outstanding...
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This is a (long) rebuttal to KatiiCullen94's argument, the Название of which is in is article's title. (Though you've probably all seen that by now.) I haven't included her points in this, so it will be necessary to read her Статья first.

1. The majority of people in this world cannot relate to Bella. Tell me, how many people can go to a new school and automatically be the prettiest and most Популярное girl there? How many girls can say that they have FIVE males lusting after them?

Bella does care for people other than herself - her boyfriend. That's it. She was perfectly happy to hurt her father...
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This is my last Статья and as Ты may know I never really came here to argue, just to figure out what was going on in Twilight-Haters heads.


Bella- Whiny and Moany ?
Everyone says that Bella is so whiney and the point is so what if she ? I am sure if we went into your heads ,you would be as moany as her. She complains about the attention she is recieving from boys. I would too it would totally creep me out if suddenly I moved to a new school and everybody likes me.
The friend problem: Jessica is not a good friend after being to 9 schools so far I have met people like this and only can I comment...
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posted by DivyaHarry
Firstly, this is not my article. I found it over the internet and pasted it here because I find it really hard to believe that there are people like this in the world who are completely ignorant или just plain stupid.

The e-mail was apparently from Kayla Patterson, a die hard Twilight/Taylor Lautner Фан upset about Universal Pictures ripping off the werewolf idea from Twilight.

To whom this may concern:

This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight Фаны around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the волк Pack from the Twilight Saga:...
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Hmm... this could take a while. Haha, I have a lot of reasons for my strong dislike of Twilight. Before I start, I'd just like to explain that I was once a Twilight fan, so I've read all the Книги and stuff, but I just can't stand it anymore. Therefore, I can give a еще complete explanation of my views. Sorry if it's really ridiculously long.

First reason I hate Twilight: the media. Twilight, in all honesty, isn't a great book. I have read worse Книги (though not many... Twilight was pretty bad). However, if Twilighters and Twilight Статьи and such weren't all "OMG ITS THE MOST AMAZING SERIES...
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Voldemort is notorious for his fear of death. To avoid death, he is willing to kill innocent people and destroy his very soul.

Now, everyone with any sense knows that Bella is a Mary Sue, and Stephenie Meyer desperately wants to be Bella. I even personally know quite a few Twilight Фаны who realize and accept this. And what does Bella want? She wants to become a vampire.

Here is some commonly known knowledge about Вампиры (according to Meyer):

-Kill innocents for survival
-Practically immortal
-Possibly lose their souls, though this is not known for sure

We see Voldemort killing innocents for survival....
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Okay now I will begin off with something that has really begin to get on my nerve. How Twilight Фаны write out their Статьи on why they like Twilight. Not just Статьи other things too. I will give Ты and example of one: "For people.....blah blah blah." Like these. Who are they directing these too exactly? I know some the Название says it, but they expect only those sort of people to respond. Pff yeah right. I see that kind of Название I go in and see what kind moronic things they have to say.

Most Twilight Фаны I see on this site lack the skills in proper grammar. Okay first if Ты ever want...
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This Статья was actually wriiten by an ex-twilighter(iloveyoudarling), not me, and i dont like the way she wrote it, cuz it is kinda rude, but i Опубликовано it so that maybe some twilighters here could consider giving harry potter a chance because the Статья proves that even though Ты Любовь twilight there COULD be a better book out there:
Dear Twilight fans,

I was Ты one day. Addicted to Twilight and couldnt ever stop Чтение it even if i had already read it 4 times. But trust me on this one will you. READ ANOTHER BOOOK!!! AFTER Ты DO THAT TWILIGHT WILL SEEM LIKE A STUPID ROMANCE STORY.

After...
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Source: HARRY!!!!!!!
So I have heard/read a LOT of arguments over this topic, and I find it ridiculous. Here are some reasons why they can't be compared with each other:

1- Письмо styles. Rowling writes in a descriptive third-person, whereas Meyer writes in a first-person account of a seventeen год old girl. Ты can't expect Bella to talk like a professional poet of some sort, I doubt many average teenage girls do that.

2- Plot. Harry Potter is mainly about wizards and fighting. Twilight is about Вампиры and romance... Totally the same (Major burning sarcasm).

3- Audience. Harry Potter is aimed for children. Before...
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