Гарри Поттер против Сумерек Club
Присоединиться
Fanpop
New Post
Explore Fanpop
This Статья was NOT written by me. I found this somewhere else as a Комментарий and thought it was great and that it should be shared. Don't give any credit to me. I just copy pasted.

First of all- Harry Potter isn’t just a childish bedtime story. Nor is it shallow. A story based off a single dream has no depth. Twilight Фаны will never what kind of man James was before he turned vampire. Rowling, however, spent 15 years planning every little detail. She created a world within our own for her witches and wizards. She has based their heritage off of real mythology and history. Their spells are in a dead language and they have organized governments with strict laws. She has followed her characters’ stories from childhood to graduation and many times to their deaths. One of the best things about this series is that Ты can study these intricate details. The Twilighters can only argue about who Bella will marry. In Harry Potter, there are arguments over everything from Snape’s loyalty, to the cryptic meaning of Trelawney’s prophesies, to petty ship-wars. In Twilight, very few people ask the Вопросы “What does she mean by that?” “Are these two little details supposed to be connected?” “How did she get that idea?” “Does this result differently than we think it will?” To Potter fans, these are common, everyday questions. Like an amusing childhood fairytale, Meyer’s “saga” is to be taken for face value; delving deep within will display its undesirable flaws. The mere fact that Harry Potter makes Ты think, makes Ты Вопрос Rowling, and causes Ты to come up with creative theories proves its superiority.

One of the primary arguments presented by Twilighters is that their book is еще emotional that Harry Potter. I, however, beg to differ. Let’s delve into the subject of love, after all that is the primary emotion in Twilight. In Twilight, there is only one kind of affection found: an obsessive, oppressive, “without him I become a dull zombie” wet dream. Unlike Twilight, Harry Potter proves that there is incredible power in love, and that Любовь doesn’t always work out. Unfortunately, I have to agree with WhatIsRightOrWhatIsEasy; neither of these Книги even compare in romance to Jane Austin. In Harry Potter, we have many different kinds of Любовь present: Parental love, romantic love, sibling love, platonic love, childhood crushes, and unrequited love. There are two loves in particular that aren’t present in Twilight: parental Любовь and unrequited love.

The parental Любовь found in Harry Potter is incredibly rich. Molly Weasley and Lilly Potter are perfect examples of motherly love, and display it in their own special ways. Lilly sacrifices her life to protect Harry. The magic that results aids Harry until the Goblet of Fire. Stop and think about THAT for a moment. If a murderer или a kidnapper tried to separate Ты from your child, would Ты be willing to die to protect your child? What if Ты knew that there was only a slim chance of your baby surviving and growing up afterwards? This is one of the most beautiful acts of courage and selflessness in the entire series. The other super-mom, Molly, has an intense Любовь for her children. While she scrambles to make ends meet, she still has plenty of room in her big сердце for Harry and Hermione; Harry comes to see her as a секунда mother. She is also ferociously protective of her children. After Bellatrix attempts to kill Ginny, Molly singlehandedly takes down her daughter’s attacker. In Twilight, Ты neither see Bella’s mother или Bella displaying this much Любовь and strength for their babies. The lesson: Never EVER mess with a mad mama- Ты will pay with your life. The Harry Potter men also make better dads. They support, protect, teach, and laugh with their kids; they wouldn’t think twice of dying for them, and will raise and care for their friend’s children. Sirius Black escapes prison and becomes a wanted fugitive to protect Harry, and later Harry raises Teddy Lupin after the Battle of Hogwarts. James Potter goes down fighting to protect his baby boy as does Remus. In the Epilogue of Deathly Hallows, Ron is seen loving on his daughter. Unlike Miss Swan’s father, he refuses to just sit around watching TV and be deceived. Instead, he jokes and encourages his daughter; it’s evident that he’s rightfully proud of her, and he’s going to let the whole world know that. Arthur Weasley is the same way. Любовь and dedication. It’s obvious that the Cullens stand no chance against that.

What about unrequited love, the most painful emotion ever to exist? All I have to say is one name: Severus Snape. After befriending Lilly as a child, he fell in Любовь with her, only to be denied her Любовь in return. Their original friendship survived house rivalries and Marauder ridicule for five years; even after losing her as a friend, Snape continued to Любовь Lilly and remained fiercely loyal to her long after her death. The most emotional thing about Snape’s Любовь for Lilly is that he felt that he was the cause of her death. He realized that his handful of mistakes lead to a lifetime of regret. He could have begged for death или even committed suicide, but he remained strong and kept all of that, pain, remorse, and Любовь inside. Now that’s passion.

Another thing that Rowling succeeds in doing that is missed by Meyers is recognizing the reality of adolescence. Not everyone in the world is the Популярное new girl who manages to snag the hottest guy in school, and Rowling knew this. Where in Twilight do Ты see the person that everyone teases, turns their backs on, and snubs? They aren’t found in Forks. Who are the oddballs, klutzes, victims, social outcasts, recluses? They don’t exist. In Harry Potter, almost everyone takes these roles at least once, although there are some whose names stand out: Neville Longbottom, Luna Lovegood, Snape, even Hermione and Harry. Are there any idiots in Twilight who are likely to fail school? Beyond anyone who finds sparkly Вампиры attractive, there are no Crabbes или Goyles in that series. What about school bullies? And no, James and his little gang don’t count. Twilight, the utopia where people don’t pick on and torment each other has never existed, doesn’t exist, and until Judgment Day, never will. Just ask Draco. There are dozens of cliques in the teenage world with thousands branches, but Meyers chooses to only portray 3: the popular, ordinary kids, the mysterious “vegetarian” vampires, and a pack of Native American shape-shifting werewolves. In Harry Potter, the cliques can be as broad as the four Houses, или as small as an individual person. There are the Quidditch players, the study-holics, the quirky pariahs, the fan-girls of the current heartthrob, Dumbledore’s Army, Inquisitorial Squad, Slug Club, the pranksters, the Slytheryns, Death Eaters in training, etc.

The most important emotions and themes present in Harry Potter that isn’t even found in Twilight is prejudice. It is only alluded to twice in Twilight- Волколаки vs. vampires, and Bella’s hybrid baby. In Harry Potter, it is one of the cornerstone motifs. There is rivalry between houses- especially Gryffindor and Slytheryn. “Pure-Bloods” shun their muggle-born counterparts, who they call “mud-bloods”. Part-blood wizards in Slytheryn are pressured to disown their muggle roots, which leads Snape to call himself the “Half-Blood Prince,” and Tom Riddle to become Lord Voldemort. Whole blood wizards and witches who sympathize with muggle-borns are called “blood-traitors.” In the seventh book, this blood-based discrimination is very pronounced; the Death Eater controlled Ministry of Magic orders a roundup of muggle-born witches and wizards, who get sent to Azakaban. Even Hermione, who manages to dodge court, gets a brutal taste of this intolerance. While captured with Harry and Ron in the Malfoy’s mansion, it is she who is tortured by Bellatrix, primarily for her blood status. That sounds like a real Holocaust to me. Remus, who is a good man and skilled wizard, is forced into permanent unemployment just because he is a werewolf. Dumbledore shows a mercy that looks beyond the common bigotry when he offers him a job as the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. When parents find out his secret, they are outraged and force him to resign. Hagrid is even attacked by Umbrige, and it’s barely coincidence that he happens to be half-giant. Prejudice doesn’t even stop among wizards. House elves are reduced to slavery for wealthy wizarding families, and even in their freedom, most have no other occupation but in the kitchens. Goblins are held with mistrust by many wizards after they stage a revolt while seeking equality. Righteously outraged centaurs attack Umbridge after she calls them beasts of sub human intelligence. One of the reasons that Harry managed to win the final battle was that he and his allies managed to put their prejudices aside and unite to fight an evil.

In fact, there are many social issues in Meyer’s “saga” that lack conviction; for one, there is the almost total lack of social class stratification in Twilight. In Harry Potter, there are the incredibly rich Malfoys, the massive inheritance bestowed upon Harry, the middle-class Dursleys and Grangers, and at the bottom, the Weasleys, who survive from paycheck to paycheck (pre Wizardly Wheezes). Foreign influences in vampire world are limited to the Italian Volturi and a few feral vampires. Foreigners in Harry Potter include the French Beauxbatons and the Eastern European Drumstang- which includes the Bulgarian Viktor Krum. There are mentions of Foreign Ministries of Magic and even magical organizations in North America. While Bill worked as a curse-breaker in Egypt, and Charlie was among Драконы in Romania, Voldemort laid low in Albania. During the Triwizard Tournament, different breeds of Драконы from multiple nations are pitted against the competitors; they include the Hungarian Horntail, the Chinese Fireball, the Swedish Short-Snout, and a Welsh Green.

And don’t even get me started on the topic of feminism. Twilight is full of gender role stereotypes that ARE vampires- these sexist notions should have been dead decades ago, but instead continue to haunt this world and suffocate women of what they truly deserve. Here are some of the chauvinistic concepts present: Bella happily cooks ужин and cleans house for her father as he cleans his gun, drinks a beer, and watches football on TV. Like some housewife from the 1950’s, she acts like belongs in the kitchen. This is the 21st century, where guys can cook too! Despite Edward’s urging her to get an education and encourages her to hope and dream, she decides to stay at home, cook, and care for the family. Although I have no problems with a stay at Главная mom, something is definitely wrong when every woman in the series shares the same occupation. Methinks Meyers’ women enjoy staying Главная hiding behind their husbands. Then Edward decides to begin dictating who she may be Друзья with, going to the point of removing the tires from her truck. ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP ALERT!! Bella also completely falls apart when Edward leaves her, and only recovers when she begins spending time with Jacob. What’s with the constant need for a man in her life? Whenever she is exposed to peril, Jacob или Edward must come to the rescue. Bella isn’t even seen fighting side-by-side with Edward; usually she’s hiding somewhere behind him as he goes in for the kill. After discovering that Forks is in western Washington, I was even еще surprised by this sexist point of view because Washington is usually pretty liberal.

This is much different than the Trio; Harry and Ron’s survival is quite dependent on Hermione’s intelligence, quick wit, and guidance. At one point, in the Chamber of Secrets, Ron ends up admitting “Where’s Hermione when Ты need her?” Compared to Twilight, there is no dearth of equality for women in Harry’s world. Here women can be feminine without being submissive. In the rough game of Quidditch, there are many talented female players: Angelina Johnson, Katie Bell, Alicia Spinnet, Ginny and Cho. The Holyhead Harpies is a professional all women’s team in the sport. Women also rise to prominent positions in government. Umbridge-no matter how corrupt she is- had a high standing position in the Ministry of Magic; later we learn that Hermione rises through the ranks in the same government and leads reforms that undo centuries of prejudice. They had their first woman Minister of Magic in the 1750’s! The muggle world was still being dominated by guys at that time. The females in Harry Potter truly kick ***! In the Battle of Hogwarts, students and alumni of all genders and ages unite to defend their school. Formidable female fighters on both sides include Bellatrix Lastrange, Ginny, Professor McGonnagal, Mrs. Weasley, and Tonks. Even Luna is a strong, quirky character who manages to hold her own.

And to everyone saying that the Вампиры of Twilight are fitter, sexier, and tougher than our wizards, I’ve got some news for you. Ты people really have your attraction priorities messed up. From what I’ve read of Twilight, I assume that by fitter Ты mean еще muscular. Too many muscles on a guy is as bad as no muscles at all. In New Moon, Bella got pretty bruised up, if Ты know what I mean. Ты see, in Quidditch, the players get toned, flexible, and quick. Holding and navigating a метла probably requires strong thigh and hip muscles- when a guy has those, it’s hottest thing ever. Quidditch players also have to make quick swerves to dodge bludgers, twist their bodies to catch quaffles, reach just a little farther than their opponent to grab the snitch, and need strong arms to hurl quaffles and hit bludgers. Also, we Harry Potter Фаны know that brains equal beauty. A person can be the fittest ломоть in the universe, but if they don’t have brains или wits, they are hideous. I’m sure that there are Harry Potter Фаны here in this blog who think that the Weasley twins’ witty pranks, Hermione’s intense knowledge, and any other genius, sharp-tongue, или Ravenclaw is a turn-on. Harry Potter’s characters earn their sexiness. Only the luckiest have genes on their side. In the terms of physical and mental attraction, I think that’s hotter than anything Twilight could offer- undead beings whose bodies automatically become glittery, super-strong, and super fast when they turn into vampires. So keep your “perfect” vamps; we have hot Quidditch players and gorgeous brainaics- the best of BOTH worlds.

I don’t think Meyers knows much about animals- either that или the fictional residents of Forks are incredibly stupid. In New Moon, these civilians describe the Волколаки as looking like bears. Seriously, Forks is in Washington- they should know a медведь when they see one! This detail is one of my pet peeves with Twilight because I volunteer at a zoo that has two Timberwolves, a Siberian Grizzly, and a pair of Black Bears. To set Meyers straight, bears and Волки are drastically anatomically and socially different. The closest they come to being related is that they both belong to the Suborder Caniformia.
added by KateKicksAss
added by KateKicksAss
added by KateKicksAss
added by KateKicksAss
added by lucius_malloy
Source: goolge
added by Gred_and_Forge
Source: Tumblr
added by Gred_and_Forge
Source: Tumblr
added by KatiiCullen94
Source: Google Обои
added by Gred_and_Forge
Source: Tumblr
posted by DivyaHarry
The Cullens are weird. Not in a vampiric sense but in common sense. They are trying to stay camouflaged but they keep failing. Lets review, shall we?

1. They go to high school over and over again. They try to blend in with the other non-sparkly, non-Adonis(y), non-vampiry and nonsensical humans. Aside from this, they pout in the cafeteria during lunch hour. Why? They could just eat their lunch elsewhere. They don't eat, so it's unlikely that no one has noticed them not eating.

2. High school is a crowded place. People keep bumping into each other at some point. Let's say the Cullens are very...
continue reading...
I see a lot of Twiight Фаны arguing the same points over and over again, and frankly, they have no idea what they're talkinng about.

First I'd like to point out:

Some Twilight Фаны are saying that they are confused with Harry Potter because they haven't read the Книги and the Фильмы don't explain clearly enough. Well, guess what, that does not make Twilight better than Harry Potter, it is not out fault Ты haven't read Harry Potter. When we argue Harry Potter vs. Twilight I was under the impression that we were including both Книги and movies, not just the movies. So the fact that your confused...
continue reading...
I suspect I'm not the only one, am I? XD...... Anyways, Ты know you're obsessed with Bellatrix when....
Credit: Me Myself and I


1. Ты throw away all of your hairbrushes.

2. Ты wear at least some black every day.

3. Ты rip your clothes on purpose.

4. Ты call people Ты don't like "filthy mudbloods".

5. Ты yell "CRUCIO!" at people when Ты get mad.

6. Ты carry knives on your person

7. Your desktop background and screensaver are of Bellatrix.

8. Whenever you're typing a word that starts with a "B" или an "L", Ты accidentally type out a Bellatrix или a Lestrange instead.

9. Ты think her birthday should...
continue reading...
I found this online. It's a real conversation a bookstore employee apparently had with a Twilight fan. It didn't happen to me. I found it funny, thought Ты guys might too.

(A customer in her late teens approaches me in the bookstore.)
Customer: “Hey, do Ты guys sell the Twilight books?”
Me: “Yes, they’re right over there.”
Customer: “Have Ты read them?”
Me: “Yes, I have.”
Customer: “Didn’t Ты just Любовь them?!”
Me: “Well, actually, they aren’t really my type of book, so–”
Customer: *suddenly furious* “Are Ты f***ing serious?! These are the best Книги ever written! I’m going to tell Edward to come and bite Ты and drink all your blood!”
Me: *backing away* “Have a nice day, ma’am…”
posted by ilovereading
I was thinking about difference in Harry Potter and Twilight background and this is what I concluded. Enjoy!

Knowledge of magical beings not soo very far from their backyards
Harry Potter: As I can get from HP Книги and The Tales of Beedle the Bard, wizarding world was known to Muggles, but because of witch hunt and victims of it in both sides, wizard decided to go underground and not to be commonly know to people. They don`t use spells in front of Muggles and if sombody does manage to discover their secret, they erase their memory.
However, there are exeptions. Families of Mugle-borns ofcourse...
continue reading...
posted by june13
were are Ты harry asked ron over here can't Ты see me am right in front of you.
no i cant see Ты it's so drak a cat even could not see in here.

hah ron very funny, lets try to find a light swicht for Ты can see.
ron i found one. well then turn it one then
i am don't worry

boo am going to suck your owls blood.
right then the sun came toungt the window and then edward begin to spark

look harry this vamiper sparks how sad is that.

ron is he waring girls cothing
yay i think he is

no am not but am in Любовь with a human girl

harry and ron at the same time laghed them selfed silly

and that's the end of this fine story
THIS IS JUST MY PERSONALL OPINION, FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK, NOT THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF TWILIGHT FANS. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION!!!!!!

Thank you.

Just so Ты know, this is a Twilight Фан speaking.

Twilight may NOT be the best book ever, i didnt say that it was (keep that in mind), when i read it, i saw alot of flaws, like in breaking dawn, Meyer made it clear that vamps cant inject sperm, and yet, somehow Bella got pregnant. I've read this Статья by XDRoseLuvsHP, and i totaly agree. I believe that People like Twilight еще thatn HP because it...
continue reading...
For all of Ты who don't know this, but I am an ex-Twilight fan. This my own personal opinion based on my personal experience with the series. For all of the Twilight Фаны who may be Чтение this right now, Ты have been warned. So here I go:

When in the course of normal, non-brainwashed leader events, it becomes necessary to dissolve the addiction of the highly “popular” teen-craving novel which have been oppressive to the efforts to differentiate the normal and the abnormal Фэнтези to which people, generally females, dreamed of, decent respect to the creativity based on the author's dream...
continue reading...
added by youknowit101
Source: crackandship@tumblr
added by Italktosnakes
Source: Whatthefawkes.tumblr.com
posted by bakura1234
It has a PLOT! It has Subplots.It has several characters with depth.JK is not afraid to sacrifice the good guys. The characters aren't one dementional. JK researches her material, has good use of Latin and history within her books. Spells are named after Latin words and do what the Latin words do. Names of soem characters give hints as to what that character is such as Sirius which means Dog звезда for еще Albus which means White (pure wizard). Ты can relate Harry Potter to WWII because of similarities Ты could learn some history from the books.
Harry Potter teaches a good deal about prejudice...
continue reading...