Arrow's Stephen Amell Hints at a 'Meaner' Season 5, Mysterious Return 

Stephen Amell this week laid eyes on the script for the first episode of

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The superhero series’ star shared in a recent Facebook Live chat that based on reading said script and then chatting with fight coordinator James Bamford, who is directing the new season’s first two episodes, the premiere “has the opportunity for us to have the most vicious, violent one-shot in the history of network television” — meaning a long, continuous take with no cuts (a la

‘s late-season Daisy fight scene, or, in non-network examples,

‘s infamous Nola vs. Burton car fight, or either of

this year,” he added, “and that’s really exciting.” (Amell later made clear, in response to a commenter’s question, that the tone is “not ‘evil,’ just meaner.”)

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Amell also teased a “slightly modified version” of the Arrow costume, plus an appearance by “someone that we haven’t seen in two full seasons. So there’s that.” (Before you blurt out, “Sla-a-a-a-ade!!!,” remember that he popped up midway through Season 3.)

Fielding a flurry of other questions, Amell had “no comment” on any

‘s premiere (which he summed up with the word “legacy”); shared his enthusiasm for

‘s Season 3 premiere title, then said the “Flashpoint” storyline “certainly could” affect

; and when asked, “What about Olicity?,” he playfully hedged, “What about it…?”

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Season 5 premieres Wednesday, Oct. 5 at 8/7c, now leading into the new series

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Impossible, “Arrow” was cancelled after season 2. Is he talking about “Felicity & Friends?”

For real though, I am right on the edge of just bailing on this show. They will have to shock and awe me with some major changes in season 5 (the biggest being reducing Felicity’s role). The problems with the show are long and storied. I fear Guggi will keep it going on the “organic” path it is on and drive it right into the ground.

Oh well, I’ve got Flash and boy do I love that show.

Agreed. I know its all for publicity but these “sneak peeks” are not making me more enthusiastic for the new upcoming season

I actually left after the first half of S3, ironically because of “Olicity” even though I used to root for them, but I was considering coming back. … Eh probably not.

I stopped watching myself mid second season, I do however read recaps from time to time to see if things improved. Felicity does not deserve such a large role in the show, she had a small role in the comic and no romance with Oliver. The show is on the cw, caters to the teen shippers , and doesn’t follow the comic. To be fair arrow isn’t the first TV show or movie about superheroes to do this but I didn’t watch those either.

I know Greg Berlanti is busy with Flash Legends and Supergirl but Guggy and Wendy are ruining the show the only cool character left is Thea Roy is gone Cool Oliver is gone Slade is gone Sara is gone and I am guessing they won’t bring Black Siren

I made it through Season 3, but had to force myself to finish the episodes. Do not miss Stephen’s wretched acting.

Some of the same people complaining they hate this show are also some of the same people who say the same things about Flash and Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl. They complain because they can.

Completely agree with you. This is not Arrow anymore. And thank God we have the Flash.

If he’s talking about Anatoly coming back, that would be freaking awesome! I would love love love that. This and Chad’s casting has me pretty hopeful for season five!

Eh, I want to come back for Anatoly, but the past two seasons have shaken my faith badly. No doubt they’ll ruin the character, but not before he gives at least one monologue proclaiming how wonderful Felicity is.

lol, I was thinking Walter? But Anatoly does make more sense going to Russia and all that :-D

Yeah, cause that’s going to make the show better. And add some more of those tired flashbacks.

If it weren’t for the crossovers I wouldn’t be watching. They aren’t making it easy though.

I hope he’s talking about the Huntress coming back.

I agree with other comments that Felicity’s role needs to be cut back. She was a nice relief during storylines the first two years but it’s just become too much. Also please cut or significantly reduce the flash backs which have become a distraction and do ltitle now to move the plots.

Look Felicity is not going anywhere. She’s the female lead. What they need to do is modify her role. No more Olicity relationship nonsense. Have her help Ollie do his vigilante/hero thing. Have her be a shoulder to lean on. Have her be a damn good friend, with the underlying idea that maybe there’s something more. But most of all give her a compelling story independent of Oliver, so her role as the female lead isn’t dependent on her romantic relationships.

Good scoop about new season. Good title for season premiere episode. Excited to find out which character from the past is coming back. Excited to see season 5 this fall!

OMG Tommy/Robert is ALIVE !!! and Olicity NEVER ever happened.

Flashpoint is in fact heading to Star City … or … is it still Starling City ?

Which characters that were in season one and/or two wasn’t in seasons three and four ?

Tommy Merlin,Moira Queen,uh….the guy Moira was married to I think(although he appeared once as a guest role I think).

It said this person wasn’t seen for two seasons ( three & four ) so that takes Tommy out of the running.

Walter appeared more than Once. Do people actually watch it

I’m guessing Anatoly since he’s heading to Russia (finally), but I hoping against reality that Huntress returns.

An appearance by someone we haven’t seen for two seasons? I hope that it’s a talented writer!

SERIOUSLY, THE ADS IN THIS SITE IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL! IT IS MAKING THE PAGE HANG UP AND TAKING A LOT OF TIME TO LOAD AND SERIOUSLY MINIMIZE IT! MOST ADS ARE EVEN VIDEOS! AND MULTIPLE VIDEO ADS IN ONE PAGE! IT WASN’T LIKE THIS BEFORE ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO! BUT NOW! I DON’T EVEN WANNA COME TO THIS SITE BECAUSE OF TOO MANY EFFIN’ ADS !

Totally excited for Arrow S5! Really looking forward to Oliver being Mayor and curious to see how the flashbacks go in Russia. Also looking forward to seeing Felicity (and of course some of her friends).

Oh please let it be Sarah. I would freak if we got to see Sarah in the premier and it be referenced later on Legends

Maybe it’s naive of me, but I really do think season 5 will be good. From everything Ive read, it seems as though they are just going back to how ARROW was in the first couple seasons. Even if they copy season 2 story beat by story beat that will be just fine. No shame in that. No magic, no superpowers. Just vigilantes and crime lords. If they do that, which it’s seems like they are, I’ll be very happy.

It’s so strange to me that every time there’s an article about Arrow, the comments are filled with remarks about how Felicity ruined the show and The Flash is so much better – because that seems to be the opposite of the critical reception. I listen to a lot of TV podcasts, and in the last few weeks every big critic seems to be commenting on The Flash’s sharp decline in quality (Variety’s Mo Ryan, Hollywood Reporter’s Tim Goodman, Hitfix’s Alan Sepinwall, etc). But Arrow fans still hold it up as writing the show should aspire to. Do they just see the crossovers? Because I don’t want Arrow to be anything like the Flash and I especially don’t want Barry’s dumb season finale decision to affect the other shows.

so, this means that you agree on the fact that Felicity ruined the show?.

Ha – not really. I think the stupid kid storyline did a lot of damage because none of the characters’ reactions to it made a lot of sense (the kid’s mom, Oliver, Felicity, Thea) and the fallout was just a contrived way to break them up. But before that, I actually liked them together. Oliver happy, smiling and making quips was the most he’s seemed like the Oliver in the comics.

But hey, it wouldn’t be a superhero show without a bunch of fans bitching about a female character…

This show is a big joke now, poor Amell deserves better!

Kind of pathetic how hard he is trying to get people hyped for it lol

I’m very excited about everything I’ve seen about Season 5. I hope all the characters are a little meaner and tougher, but still fun. Many people also still love Oliver and Felicity and what has been built between them for 4 seasons and I hope the gripers and complainers don’t influence the show to abandon them. Except for the ridiculous lying drama, they have been fun since season 1.

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