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posted by JNTA1234
Though not nearly as much as Merida and other revival princesses,Tiana is occasionally bashed for contributing to Disney's current trend of "meta", "woke" commentary with her whole "hard work, Ты can't just wish" shtick. While this does irritate me, I try to separate film makers' intentions from the actual context of the movie and the character.

In the first act of the film, she's portrayed as diligent and determined but she's not as in your face about it. For the most part, her thing is "partying and dancing just isn't my for me". She's not insistent, condescending или critical of others for their values. In fact, her Друзья and her mother are the ones being critical of her, and when her Друзья call her out for her workaholic nature, Ты can see in her reactions and facial expressions that it does bother her.

It's when she turns into a frog that a еще arrogant and self-righteous Tiana emerges, but to be fair, these characteristics seem to stem from her reactions to Naveen's equally arrogant carefree ways. Perhaps the writers went too far in making them "foils" to each other, and thus both their personalities come off a bit too heavy handed. Naveen is just as mean and judgmental towards Tiana as she is to him, and let's be honest, Tiana has еще right to be upset with him than the other way around.

That's why her dismissive attitude is understandable, as far as she was concerned, Naveen was someone who had just potentially ruined her whole life. At that time, in her eyes, this whole problem was all his fault, the only thing she truly did wrong was not clarifying that she wasn't really a princess and even that doesn't affect Naveen, his situation wasn't any worse off than it was before after they kissed, Tiana's was.

One princess who Tiana is surprisingly similar to in a few ways is Ariel, they both have relentless determination and they're both rather stubborn. Tiana is so stubborn that Naveen learns the errors of his ways much quicker than she does. It takes until her confrontation with Dr. Facilier near the end to realize what was truly important and the wise words of her mother and Mama Odie finally break through,

So it's not like the film is portraying her as in the right for working all the time and everyone else is in the wrong for criticizing her, (unlike Belle's situation with the townspeople) particularly, after the musical number Dig A Little Deeper where Tiana completely ignores the underlying message of the song and still insists on her hard work motto, Mama Odie and her Животные are very much annoyed with her. We're certainly not meant to side with her in that context.

I think the reason why PATF doesn't infuriate me as much as Холодное сердце is, while it does have that whole obnoxious "look, we're subverting Дисней tropes" crap, it does embrace the trope it's criticizing. Throughout the film, Tiana is consistently дана evidence both for and against wishes and by the end of the film, she does learn that there may be some truth to this concept.

Tiana's problem was that she only paid attention to HALF of her father's motto, (the hard work aspect) he never dismissed или belittled the idea of wishing and dreaming and while it isn't done in the most flawless way, Tiana does in time realize that. Is it really fair to call a character "anti-wishing" или "anti-fun" when a big part of her character arc is learning the value of those things?

That's the whole point of луч, рэй and Evangeline, Tiana's starting to realize that maybe the restaurant isn't what's most important and she asks Evangeline, the evening star, for help, something she wouldn't do normally. When she lashes out at луч, рэй it's because she's frustrated and again, she's been getting conflicting messages about the effectiveness of wishes. Later, she sees proof when луч, рэй dies and is "united" with Evangeline, his wish was granted.

Yes, she was rude to луч, рэй regarding Evangeline but she was only speaking out of hurt, луч, рэй himself actually acknowledges that. And as for learning to have fun, that's the whole point of her relationship with Naveen. He teaches her to have еще fun and she teaches him to take things еще seriously. They balance each other out, and that's really the message, balancing hard work with concepts like wishing, Любовь and fun, which is what everyone's telling Naveen and especially Tiana throughout the whole film.

Ultimately, I don't think PATF is as annoyingly and condescendingly subversive and "meta" as Храбрая сердцем and Frozen. Brave's "I don't need a prince" thing was exacerbated by making all her suitors pathetic morons while Холодное сердце really takes a jab at "the Любовь at sight" thing by making the charming prince the villain. PATF's subversion is еще on par with Moana's, it's still slightly annoying but it doesn't really patronize and antagonize the trope and the concept, if anything Tiana is the one who's antagonized for being so critical of it.
posted by WinterSpirit809
I actually got this idea from disnerdtobe, who got this idea from anukriti, and I actually want to do the same, since I have a lot of princesses I relate to. That being said, this will be very hard, but keep in mind, these are princesses I myself relate to. It is also set up a little differently than disnerdtobe's

Not Relatable



Making up a majority of this part of the Список are Golden Era princesses. I think they were relatable to the girls in their time period which I think is why I personally don't relate to them. That isn't to say that there aren't people who relate to these princesses-...
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 Дисней Любовь songs.
Disney love songs.
Hi guys, since I Любовь traveling, I would like to write down some nice cities on which the Дисней Princess and their respective princes will fall in Любовь with since Valentine's день is coming soon.

1. Manchester, England, UK

Snow White and Prince Ferdinand will definitely Любовь this city, it is very country-oriented and Snow White will consider this as her секунда home!

2. Milan, Italy

Since France is a neighbour to Italy, Золушка will carry her duties with Prince Kit by making her first official state visit there. They will definitely Любовь this city even еще than Paris.

3. Prague, Czech Republic...
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Hello everyone! Okay maybe this "favorite princess Список article" sounds too mainstream on this club. But as I find I rarely create any Избранное Список Статья unlike most of users here, I decide to write one.

Happy reading ^.^

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11. Jasmine



Aladdin is one of the interesting Дисней prince, but the same thing not happen with Jasmine. Nothing special with her. During the movie I just saw her as a princess who was forced to marriage under the law. Nothing еще than that. What I like from her is only how generous and outspoken she is. Unless for me, she is lack of development, probably because...
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 We wish Ты a Merry Christmas!
We wish you a Merry Christmas!
So, imagine if all of the princesses gather together on Рождество Eve and here are the lists of famous carols или any songs that are Рождество related from famous Рождество films.

1. Believe (The Polar Express)

I absolutely adore this song from the film, it was originally sung by Josh Groban but was later covered by Jackie Evancho. The lyrics has a message about believing during Рождество especially.

2. As Long as There's Рождество (Beauty and the Beast: The Зачарованная Christmas)

Since this is Belle's song, the other princesses can Присоединиться in as the chorus или they could 'echo' her words when she sings...
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Hello guys!! To those who recognize me, I hope you're all doing well! I've been busy with college apps and life in general, but I've been well! To those who don't, nice to meet you! I used to frequent this site a couple years ago. :) Anyway I'm just going to go straight into the review! There won't be any large plot type spoilers, but if Ты want to go in knowing absolutely nothing, I would recommend not reading!

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I just got Главная from seeing this beautiful film and I need to let out all my feelings somewhere, but hopefully this will be somewhat coherent and not come across as a giant rant...
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Now a lot of Ты are probably thinking, 'bluethunder25 Gothel can't be redeemed because first of all, she was 'too evil,' and two, she died from old aging and turned to dust.

Well as Ты know, I've stated in Назад Статьи that I don't feel Gothel is entirely evil. As for the секунда one, if Gothel did in fact turn to dust, then I say, that means she has a good chance to come back to life which also means she has a good chance of a redemption. How? Allow me to explain.

Now first of all, before Ты all freak out, no, Gothel's redemption won't be overnight, in fact, for Gothel's redemption arc,...
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Which Дисней Princess got to live in the most beautiful house? Which ruled the hearts of Фаны - the cottages, mansions или humble homes?
Fans have voted and results are in! Here's a look how Фаны ranked the DP homes.

12. Aladdin's home:
Most Фаны understood that this barely counted as a home, but еще like a shelter to rest at night. It barely had anything, not even a door. Even though it had a great view, beautiful it surely wasn't.




anukriti2409: This is really an abandoned place, which Аладдин uses for shelter. It's really downtrodden, with no furniture или gate или windows или curtains. It's...
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 1. Sparkly dress
1. Sparkly dress
We now begin a new era of Дисней the Renaissance. Дисней Princesses are coming in fast and we start with Ariel. I will not be including her as a Mermaid simply because this is her as a woman in a dress not with a tail on. If I was to rate her as a mermaid it would be 10 but as a human 0. I will also not involve her night wear.

1. Sparkly dress
Ariel is now a human she walks from under the sea to meet prince Eric, but unable to speak for now. Her dress made by Triton is a sparkly silver dress with no accessories on her. It may be nice evening but for me it's missing something attention seeking...
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 1. Working dress
1. Working dress
Hi there, My Далее princess will be Cinderella. She has a few еще outfits than snow white so we will be having еще information today.

1. Working dress
I must begin by saying it's not a dress It's just a blue вверх with a brown like vest on, brown skirt, white фартук with brown flat plump shoes. Like snow whites it's not an outfit Ты would go on a дата with или meet a handsome prince but for a worker then its the best for the job. 5/10

2. Ball dress A
Those step sisters just can't stand her and her dress as it was quickly destroyed. The dress is a розовый mainly with a white lower section, розовый heels...
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