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Before I begin, I’d like to set one thing straight: I’m not against Twilight fans. I respect Ты and your opinions. I just have different ones. These reasons are opinion and fact mixed together. Please don't disrespect me for my opinions. Also, warning: This will be long.

After completely the Harry Potter series, I looked for the Далее “big thing.” Being in middle school, the Далее “big thing” was the Twilight Saga. Sure, why not. I read them through once. I didn’t Любовь it. I didn’t hate it. It was just another book. I never laughed, или cried. It never pulled any emotion out of me in the way Harry Potter did.

After a little break, I decided to reread the books. Maybe this time I would cry when Edward left Bella. Maybe I would laugh when she broke her fist punching Jacob. Maybe I would really think that it was just as good as Harry Potter.

Rereading the books, I did laugh. I wanted to cry. Because I had realized what a literary failure this was. I had realized just why Hermione is so much better than Bella, discovered the reasons that Harry Potter was so much better. I realized the absence of a plot and the fact that characters are all static and unlovable.

And I decided that I really, really hated Bella Swan.

As a whole, the Twilight Saga is just a pesky fad. I don’t particularly loathe или hate it. It’s a book I read that I thought that it was badly written, the plot nonexistent, and the characters poorly constructed. The one thing I hated about the series, that I really couldn’t stand, was Bella.

The main reason I couldn’t stand her was because of her complete and utter crap role model, as well as a very poor character. Here are some of the many, many reasons.

1.)    Her first день of school. I have also been a new girl in a small town (yes, just as small as Forks) and trust me, Ты don’t have guys falling over to help you, trying to get your attention, and Ты absolutely don’t have Друзья on the first день of school. (I will admit, however, that it’s not only Twilight that has this problem. Many Книги series unrealistically have Новенькая heroines with instant friends. Not true!)

2.)    Oh, my life just stinks! I have a boyfriend who’s obsessed with me, loving parents, Друзья who I completely ignore, and oh, woe-is-me! Bella is constantly whining about everything she can’t have, when she already has so much! “I Любовь Edward! Edward won’t let me Kiss him! I Любовь Edward! Edward won’t let me see Jacob! I Любовь Edward! Oh my gosh, I Любовь Jacob but I Любовь Edward more! I Любовь Edward!” That, my friends, is the summary of four books.

3.)    Bella is completely and utterly male-dependent. Oh my life just stinks, oh wait, there’s a hot guy! All better! The hot guy left me? Here’s another one! All better! Uh-oh, now I have to choose! When she doesn’t have Edward или Jacob by her side, she is a zombie. She is never shown as fighting или being strong, only hiding in the background while Jacob and Edward do her work for her.

4.)    The Break-Up. How pathetic can Ты get? This is where the role-model part comes in. If you’ll forgive me, I’m going to do a little Bella-Hermione comparison. Bella: “Okay girls, if your boyfriend leaves you, Ты are nothing. Go jump off a cliff.” Hermione: “Okay girls, if your boyfriend leaves you, it’s okay to cry for a while, but Ты have to pull yourself together and keep on going.”

5.)    The Shield. Mary Sue alert! Of course they wouldn’t have won the battle without Bella! Her shield is oh so super important! One of the main signs of a Mary Sue is that the “good guys” couldn’t win the battle against the “bad guys” without the Mary Sue. Hmm. Sound familiar? Breaking Dawn, page 742, “So, it was a combination of things there at the end, but what it really boiled down to was…Bella.”

6.)    Skipping the newborn bloodthirstiness. Another Mary Sue alert! Bella is too perfect to go through the bloodthirstiness of being a newborn, of course. Incredibly annoying and unrealistic.

7.)    Bella is a terrible friend. She has friends, and then completely ignores them to spend all her time with her boyfriend. When her boyfriend is gone, she expects her Друзья to Любовь and hug her and accept her back! If they don’t, they are the terrible friends. But oh, when Edward gets back, good-bye amigos. She completely uses her friends, barely paying attention to them when Edward is around.

8.)    Despite the fact that Bella is a personality devoid, whiny brat, everybody adores her. Mary Sue much? If Ты don’t adore Bella, Ты are portrayed as a shallow сука или an enemy.

9.)    Bella just isn’t very intelligent. Sure, she reads classics and gets good grades so that she seems smart, but when she finds out that a guy has been watching her sleep for two months, oh, it’s just so gosh darn romantic! I’d bet that if he hadn’t been an incredibly hot vampire, she would have screamed and called for her dad. Shallow much?

10.)    All she cares about is Edward’s looks. The only thing she can do is moon on about his eyes, his hair, those eyes. And how perfect he is. The piano? Expert. Smart? Of course! The relationship doesn’t Переместить beyond Edward’s looks and his supposed perfection. Does she care that he controls who she sees, who her Друзья are, and follows her (or has Alice follow her) wherever she goes, the exact traits of an abusive boyfriend? Nope, because he has those gorgeous eyes…

All in all, Bella is a Mary Sue self insertion, similar to those found in Фан fiction by 14 год olds. I apologize if I got my facts wrong или exaggerated. Please let me know if I made a technical error and/or a mistake. No, telling me, “Bella does have personality!” is not a mistake I made. It is your opinion. I have mine, and Ты have yours.

Thanks for reading!
posted by KateKicksAss
**If Twilight HAD gone this way, we wouldn't have gotten past book one!**


Bella: *walking into Forks High School* Oh, look, that guy is kind of hot. His name's Edward? Oh well, who cares anyway? There's еще to life than hot guys. или guys in general.

Bella: Oh, look, i'm really Популярное for some reason. Well, these people seem okay. I'll be a good friend, and not ignore people или treat them like crap, and DEFINITELY not ditch them to hang out with my some guy.

Edward: I Любовь Ты Bella. Hey, wanna go out with me?

Bella: Um, creepy much? *sigh* Fine, i'll go out with you.

Bella: Okay, you're nice...
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posted by Aquilia
Oh do Ты not see, the language so cruciated,
By your most unfortunate attempt in grammars?
Do Ты believe, for that moment that we're mirthed?
Well, then Ты are as mistaken as the Balaclava Brits.

Don't Ты see, your own insults to your common decency?
Do Ты not hear, our desperate attempts to save your sanity?
I hope Ты hear, I must hope Ты see.
But I think, Ты only see your vanity.

Vanity, vanity, everything vanity...
But then where are your humanity? The World wonder'd...

Dedicated to iluvtwilight, ellietwilight12 and every other rabid Фан in the whole wide world. I plead to you: Stop this madness...

Inspiration: Alfred, Lord Tennyson; the Charge of the Light Brigade
Okay so first of i am going to say again i am a Фан of both.But if Ты would ask me what i like better i think it would probably be Harry Potter.But i want to hear out why do Ты dislike/hate(tho hate it's to of a strong word for a book/movie)Twilight.I want solid arguments not such as : cause the Вампиры there sparkle , like this Twilight Фаны could just say 'because Harry has a scar' или 'because they go to a school of magic' или 'because all death eaters are black(mostly)' i mean these are arguments just so Ты can say something.I tend to believe these days people hate/dislike Twilight just because others do.And i will ask Ты nicely and be thankful if Ты could tell me why Ты don't like it at all/hate it.
Dear Stephenie Meyer,
First I would like to thank Ты for taking the time to read my letter. It means a lot to me. In this letter, I would like to explain why I do not like the Twilight series and how it did have room for improvment.
The main problem I had with the series is how Bella and Edward's Любовь is shown to be ideal, when in fact, it's unhealthy. Throughout the books, we do not get any insight on their hobbies and likes/dislikes. The problem with this is that we do not know if Edward или Bella share any common interests to be considered perfect for each other. In fact, they only had...
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posted by GemonkDruid
Twilight fans, this is a Дебаты spot. So DEBATE. There are a few issues I see at this spot concerning Ты guys:

- Saying it's better because Edward/Jacob is hot

Okay, those kind of arguments are instantly invalid, coz beauty is subjective and depends on one's perspective. Also, can Ты actually SEE what they look like in the book series? Nope. And the inside of the person is what really counts.

- Saying it's better coz it's a Любовь story

What Bella and Edward have is not love, it's infatuation. They only like each other because of how the other person looks like/smells. They never chit-chat like...
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When me and my friend Fiona were in the sixth grade, we decided to write a fanfiction about the Twilight characters going to Hogwarts. (We were both major Twilight Фаны then.) I wasn't the best writer in those days, so the beginning of the fanfic isn't great, but it gets better as we go along.
You'll notice that our seprate entries can get a bit confusing at times, and that's because we were Письмо by e-mail because she lives six hours away from me, and we were just making it up as we went along. Fiona is Письмо about the character Peace, and I am using the character that I use for EVERYTHING,...
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posted by HecateA
So lately I've been thinking of the Cullens and how damn rich they are. And then I stop and go, wait a minute, how is that possible?

So I am going to compare the Cullen expenses and the average normal-people expenses in this chart.

Expense Normal People The Cullens

-Food X X*
-Clothing X X*
-Shelter X X
-Gas X X
-Inssurance X
-Electricity X X
-Running water X ?*
-Heating/cooling X
-School supplies X X
-Blood X
-At Главная
Medical supplies
and medicine X X*
-Private island X*
and its maintenance X
-Cottage или
campground, etc X
-Travel expenses X X*
-Cell phones X X
-Useless Twilight
merchandise X
-Lunch money...
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posted by rangarajvignesh
The World is flat!
    Well, I know Ты Вопрос my sanity, now. Obviously, the world is round and that’s a proven fact, from the moment Galileo stepped out of his ship. And now, there’s a Вопрос again. Is the World really round? I hate that word, really. The word which gives rise to a lot of Вопросы and seeks for explanations.
    ‘Imagination is еще important than knowledge,’ сказал(-а) a wise man once. And, it’s true. Well, Ты need not be aware of the complications of four-dimensional Космос fabric to accept this theory. What all Ты need to...
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posted by emilykuru
BELLA лебедь _ part 1

Ummm…. What can i say about her………….er…….nothing interesting but i can Показать u guys why she spoils the story


1.she is a hopeless char.she degrades herself,

2.she is stupid 2 leave her mom and come to forks when she begs her 2 comeback.

ok! if u guys say that it was because of the Любовь for renee then it is totally wrong.

which daughter who loved her mom so much as to go 2 the place which she considers
hell just for her moms happiness would forget all about renee when jumping off a cliff to hear edwards voice.
doesnt she always worry in the story that she has...
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posted by harrypotterbest
There is, in the world, a girl called Z-----. еще commonly known on this website as Best, that is the name that shall be used for this anti story.
Now, when best was 11 years old, she had read all the Harry Potter books, and loved them. I’m talking about waiting for her Hogwarts acceptance letter to come and carving wands. She truly loved the series. In 2009, she went to a wedding. Her aunt there had read the Harry Potter books, except for the last one. She also had a cousin there, who was a huge Фан of Twilight. Now, at that time, best hadn’t read Twilight. Her aunt was also a huge fan...
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posted by harrypotterbest
As Edward and Harry settled the final means of the battle, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny had a talk.
“Who wrote this rubbish?” asked Ron. “Sparkle in the sun, battle with debate, they don’t even drink proper blood!”
Hermione, as usual, was the one to answer. “Ron, everyone knows Stephanie Meyer wrote this ‘rubbish.’ She’s not a very good writer, according to The Daily Prophet, and for once I agree with them,” Hermione rolled her eyes. “At least OUR writer, the brilliant J K Rowling, didn’t make US sparkle in the sun. What nonsense!”
“Do Ты know where this Meyer person...
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I'm tired of repeating myself and other HP Фаны repeating themselves constantly so here is my opinion on why Harry Potter is better. So Ты don't think I'm being biased, let me tell you: I read Harry Potter when I was 5 and have been a Фан since (and that shuts down the Комментарий that little kids can't read it by the way) and when I was 13, I read Twilight (before the bandwagon) and loved it. Then just recently, I got off the Twilight High. So I know how it is to have liked Twilight and to like Harry Potter.

First, we can look at the authors. JK Rowling is the epitome of Rag to Riches. She started...
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posted by NataliaLidia
i persenally dont like ether series and heres why!!!

books
twilight
1) i am a reel vampire and i do not sparkl!!! stephanie shud have серовато-коричневый, dun, дун her reasearch before she wrote a book about vampires!!!
2) bella is a bad roll model!!!
4) edwerd is abusiv!!!
5) its unrealistic!!!
6) its badly writen!!!
7) edwerd is describd to much!!! it gets boring!!!
8) its boring overall!!!

harry potter
1) its not relatble!!!
2) its made for kids!!!
3)harry always beets te bad guy!!! he never looses!!!
4) harry gets away wit everything in skool!!!
5) they hav bad frends!!! ron leaves nd dosnt stay wit harry when peeps make fun of him!!!
6) its boring!!!
7) snape keeps his job even tho he bullys students nd is a deth eater!!!
8) dumbledoor doesnt reely care about harry!!! he leaves him at da durslys even tho they are abusiv!!!

movies
both Фильмы hav bad actors nd the filmers didnt follows the boks the way they were suposed to!!!
posted by HaleyDewit
Bella
My name is Bella and there’s something I need to tell
I’m dating this cute vampire, he’s just hot as hell
He’s fascinated by my none existing mind
And I fall apart whenever I stare in those liquid topaz eyes

Edward
My name is Edward and there’s something I need to say
Bella’s gonna freak when she finds out I’m gay
But I can clearly understand what she sees in me
Because have Ты ever met someone this perfectly

Bella
I used to live in Phoenix, but now moved to this rainy place
I keep whining about it and I always have the same expression on my face
I’m just a little girl who’s helpless...
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1. Присоединиться an orchestra.
[i] You're inside, anyway.....

2. Присоединиться an opera.
He has a good voice...right?

3. Go to a tanning salon.
Who wants to be pale all their life?

4. Leave home.
You're a hundred and something and STILL living with your parents. How does that feel?

5. Travel.
Yeah, the sparkling thing pops that bubble a bit, but what are parasols for?

6. Discover...SUNSCREEN.
It protects Ты from the sun. Shocking, eh?

7. Begin a knitting business.
Creativity is key. Ты can still stay inside, and make money. Plus, Ты make Друзья with the rest of the sweet little old people in the knitting club.

8.Start...
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I'm adressing the rabid Twilight Фаны if they would listen. I'm also adressing the common Фаны of both sides of this debate.

There are some things one may and may not do in a formal Дебаты unless one wants to look like - pardon the language - a freaking donkey.

Nr 01: One may not argue against the debaters points by attacking him или her. This is called argumentum ad hominem and is a fallacy. For example: If I am to argue that free elections is wrong and states that the arguer is an imbecile that does not deserve the right to vote, then I have committed a severe personal attack and will be frowned...
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posted by Athiya
Many of Ты might have noticed that the golden trio from Harry Potter (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) had always been paired up to fight with the not-so-golden trio of Twilight (Edward, Jacob, and Bella). Now, XDRoseLuvsHP had pointed out a great deal on why HP trio would win against the Twilight's (you can find it link), so I figured perhaps it's time for the villains to battle.

My first thought was off course, James and Voldemort; but then, it didn't seem fair on the Twilight side. James was not a very good villain; his character was poorly underdeveloped and his powers weren't very outstanding...
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This is a (long) rebuttal to KatiiCullen94's argument, the Название of which is in is article's title. (Though you've probably all seen that by now.) I haven't included her points in this, so it will be necessary to read her Статья first.

1. The majority of people in this world cannot relate to Bella. Tell me, how many people can go to a new school and automatically be the prettiest and most Популярное girl there? How many girls can say that they have FIVE males lusting after them?

Bella does care for people other than herself - her boyfriend. That's it. She was perfectly happy to hurt her father...
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This is my last Статья and as Ты may know I never really came here to argue, just to figure out what was going on in Twilight-Haters heads.


Bella- Whiny and Moany ?
Everyone says that Bella is so whiney and the point is so what if she ? I am sure if we went into your heads ,you would be as moany as her. She complains about the attention she is recieving from boys. I would too it would totally creep me out if suddenly I moved to a new school and everybody likes me.
The friend problem: Jessica is not a good friend after being to 9 schools so far I have met people like this and only can I comment...
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posted by DivyaHarry
Firstly, this is not my article. I found it over the internet and pasted it here because I find it really hard to believe that there are people like this in the world who are completely ignorant или just plain stupid.

The e-mail was apparently from Kayla Patterson, a die hard Twilight/Taylor Lautner Фан upset about Universal Pictures ripping off the werewolf idea from Twilight.

To whom this may concern:

This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight Фаны around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the волк Pack from the Twilight Saga:...
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