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Before I begin, I’d like to set one thing straight: I’m not against Twilight fans. I respect Ты and your opinions. I just have different ones. These reasons are opinion and fact mixed together. Please don't disrespect me for my opinions. Also, warning: This will be long.

After completely the Harry Potter series, I looked for the Далее “big thing.” Being in middle school, the Далее “big thing” was the Twilight Saga. Sure, why not. I read them through once. I didn’t Любовь it. I didn’t hate it. It was just another book. I never laughed, или cried. It never pulled any emotion out of me in the way Harry Potter did.

After a little break, I decided to reread the books. Maybe this time I would cry when Edward left Bella. Maybe I would laugh when she broke her fist punching Jacob. Maybe I would really think that it was just as good as Harry Potter.

Rereading the books, I did laugh. I wanted to cry. Because I had realized what a literary failure this was. I had realized just why Hermione is so much better than Bella, discovered the reasons that Harry Potter was so much better. I realized the absence of a plot and the fact that characters are all static and unlovable.

And I decided that I really, really hated Bella Swan.

As a whole, the Twilight Saga is just a pesky fad. I don’t particularly loathe или hate it. It’s a book I read that I thought that it was badly written, the plot nonexistent, and the characters poorly constructed. The one thing I hated about the series, that I really couldn’t stand, was Bella.

The main reason I couldn’t stand her was because of her complete and utter crap role model, as well as a very poor character. Here are some of the many, many reasons.

1.)    Her first день of school. I have also been a new girl in a small town (yes, just as small as Forks) and trust me, Ты don’t have guys falling over to help you, trying to get your attention, and Ты absolutely don’t have Друзья on the first день of school. (I will admit, however, that it’s not only Twilight that has this problem. Many Книги series unrealistically have Новенькая heroines with instant friends. Not true!)

2.)    Oh, my life just stinks! I have a boyfriend who’s obsessed with me, loving parents, Друзья who I completely ignore, and oh, woe-is-me! Bella is constantly whining about everything she can’t have, when she already has so much! “I Любовь Edward! Edward won’t let me Kiss him! I Любовь Edward! Edward won’t let me see Jacob! I Любовь Edward! Oh my gosh, I Любовь Jacob but I Любовь Edward more! I Любовь Edward!” That, my friends, is the summary of four books.

3.)    Bella is completely and utterly male-dependent. Oh my life just stinks, oh wait, there’s a hot guy! All better! The hot guy left me? Here’s another one! All better! Uh-oh, now I have to choose! When she doesn’t have Edward или Jacob by her side, she is a zombie. She is never shown as fighting или being strong, only hiding in the background while Jacob and Edward do her work for her.

4.)    The Break-Up. How pathetic can Ты get? This is where the role-model part comes in. If you’ll forgive me, I’m going to do a little Bella-Hermione comparison. Bella: “Okay girls, if your boyfriend leaves you, Ты are nothing. Go jump off a cliff.” Hermione: “Okay girls, if your boyfriend leaves you, it’s okay to cry for a while, but Ты have to pull yourself together and keep on going.”

5.)    The Shield. Mary Sue alert! Of course they wouldn’t have won the battle without Bella! Her shield is oh so super important! One of the main signs of a Mary Sue is that the “good guys” couldn’t win the battle against the “bad guys” without the Mary Sue. Hmm. Sound familiar? Breaking Dawn, page 742, “So, it was a combination of things there at the end, but what it really boiled down to was…Bella.”

6.)    Skipping the newborn bloodthirstiness. Another Mary Sue alert! Bella is too perfect to go through the bloodthirstiness of being a newborn, of course. Incredibly annoying and unrealistic.

7.)    Bella is a terrible friend. She has friends, and then completely ignores them to spend all her time with her boyfriend. When her boyfriend is gone, she expects her Друзья to Любовь and hug her and accept her back! If they don’t, they are the terrible friends. But oh, when Edward gets back, good-bye amigos. She completely uses her friends, barely paying attention to them when Edward is around.

8.)    Despite the fact that Bella is a personality devoid, whiny brat, everybody adores her. Mary Sue much? If Ты don’t adore Bella, Ты are portrayed as a shallow сука или an enemy.

9.)    Bella just isn’t very intelligent. Sure, she reads classics and gets good grades so that she seems smart, but when she finds out that a guy has been watching her sleep for two months, oh, it’s just so gosh darn romantic! I’d bet that if he hadn’t been an incredibly hot vampire, she would have screamed and called for her dad. Shallow much?

10.)    All she cares about is Edward’s looks. The only thing she can do is moon on about his eyes, his hair, those eyes. And how perfect he is. The piano? Expert. Smart? Of course! The relationship doesn’t Переместить beyond Edward’s looks and his supposed perfection. Does she care that he controls who she sees, who her Друзья are, and follows her (or has Alice follow her) wherever she goes, the exact traits of an abusive boyfriend? Nope, because he has those gorgeous eyes…

All in all, Bella is a Mary Sue self insertion, similar to those found in Фан fiction by 14 год olds. I apologize if I got my facts wrong или exaggerated. Please let me know if I made a technical error and/or a mistake. No, telling me, “Bella does have personality!” is not a mistake I made. It is your opinion. I have mine, and Ты have yours.

Thanks for reading!
Logical reasons...
why Harry Potter v.s Twilight

*WARNING SPOILERS*

Hi! I'm Cinnominbubble and I have noticed the war between fandoms have been going on for a while with no clear outcome. There is a reason to this-We are stubborn. Twihards want to stick up for Stephanie Meyer, whilst Potterheads want to do the same for J. K. Rowling. But, I have noticed something. Many of our reasonings aren't exactly logical. I mean, not to be offensive, some of our strongest points are downright idiotic!(from both sides) I'd like to come up with some smarter points to help people see our side of the story, whatever...
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Harry Potter beats Twilight. Of course. But I really don't like it when HP Фаны use opinion-ated "facts" when saying WHY Harry Potter is the better movie series. So, I, who am a major Potterhead, put together 7 true, solid, hard, and undeniable facts about certain aspects of the two movie series to prove why Harry Potter is the ultimate series.
**I will only be discussing the movies**

1) Soundtrack

Listen to this wonderful and memorable theme song. As Ты may have guessed, the theme song belogs to Harry Potter : link

Now listen to this: link
It's pretty, but it doesn't find a special place in...
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Everyone knows Rowling and Meyer's stance on fanfiction and the fact both writers have дана a thumbs up of sorts. However, there is something I don't think either one of them would of approve of and it involves those Reading the Books a lot of people are supposedly writing. I say supposedly Письмо because copying from another persons work is not Письмо unless Ты are quoting under fair use. And boy... every single Чтение the Книги I've come across is not in fair use and constitutes plagiarism. I know how to write one that doesn't constitute plagiarism, but I'll save that until the end.

One...
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posted by RonGetYourWand
As Ты can tell from my username, I am a huge Harry Potter fan. However, I wasn’t always. I used to be a Twihard (a twilight obsessed fan-girl). In fact I was one during the early stages of puberty, which is the age where most Twitards fall into the ‘romantic’ trap.

Here’s my story about how I went from ‘Twihard’ to ‘Indifferent’ to ‘Potterhead’:

I first read Twilight as a recommendation from a fellow member of the Teen Advisory Board of my library. I finished that book quickly and moved onto the next. The библиотека didn’t have Eclipse so I read it ‘Twilight, New Moon, Breaking...
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I don't want to hear about Harry Potter или any other book right now. I'm not setting this up for a Дебаты about which is better. I just want to know seriously and honestly why Ты Twilight Фаны enjoy Чтение Twilight. I want to see an actual reason that Twilight is a good book.
If Ты don't like Twilight, I don't want to hear Ты saying anything bad about it. I just want to know why people like it. Because all the debate's I've seen have no actual reasons. They have HP Фаны and Twihards going on about which book is better, but not why they like it.
I do actually want respectful Дебаты though. I want to discuss the reasons Ты give, but nicely.
If Ты can't be respectful of each other's opinions then just don't comment.
And I'm not trying to hate on Twilight, but if I disagree with Ты I will Дебаты with you.
I don't know if there are other debate's about this, so I'm sorry if there are, but I didn't look.
I'm just rambling now so let's get onto it!
posted by SuperSnuffles13
I thought of a very wonderful quote. I'm not sure where it came from. I might have read it somewhere before. Maybe it is many Цитаты brought together. Maybe it is entirely of my own creation. I don't know. Anyways, I find it to be very beautiful and thought-provoking...

"Twilight is a children's book poorly disguised as great literature. Harry Potter is great literature poorly disguised as a children's book."

I doubt I wrote it. I'm not capable of coming up with something so witty and beautiful as that.

Allow me to explain what it means. It means that Twilight makes people think it is great literature...
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Because My Taste In Книги Is Just That Awesome

It's easy to point out the negatives in the things we don't like. Likewise, it's also easy to point out the positives in those things which we love. Difficult, it is, to accept the positives in that which we hate, and the negatives in that which we enjoy. Today, I would like to point out to Ты solely the positives. And it's a good thing I like both things that I intend to praise because otherwise I might find this a difficult endevour to pursue.

In short, I'm gonna tell Ты what's good about both HP and Twi. These might seem a bit repetitive to...
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(I didn't include plot, good characters, etc. because those are automatically included)

1. POTATO.
2. pirates
3. ninjas
4. An awesome pirate/ninja fight
5. Swords (preferably celestial bronze)
6. Closets (for Edward to hide deep inside)
7. giraffes
8. YOUR FACE
9. YOUR MOM
10. YOUR MOM'S FACE
11. Butterflies
12. Chuck Norris
13. Jet-packs
14. kittens
15. strip poker :D
16. hand lotion
17. Sue Sylvester
18. sherbet
19. 20 фагот players :D
20. SNICKERS
21. Jedis
22. Druids :D
23. FREE ICE CREAM
24. A monkey called Jeeves who occasionally slaps Bella
25. YOU.
posted by ilovereading
A lot of debates is going on about who would win, if Harry and Edward got in a fight или duel.
This is understandable since it summerize the whole wizards vs. Вампиры thing.
I will try to be objective and analize their chances fair.

1.Physical abilitys
Harry is, besides his magic, a human. He trains Quidditch and he is not exactly out of form, but he just doesn`t have what it takes to break trees in half and stop rushing cars. He can die because of wounds.
Edward on the other hand, is incredebly strong and fast (and cold and never eats and we all know what he is - a vampire). He CAN break trees...
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 WTF?! Sparkly vampires?!
WTF?! Sparkly vampires?!
1. A decent plot.
2. A plot.
3. Character death.
4. Quidditch.
5. Voldemort.
6. Bellatrix Lestrange.
7. Severus Snape (The best of all)
8. Hogwarts.
9. Magic.
10. A wand.
11. An all-ages audience.
12. A writer who doesn't make her characters bitches.
13. Вампиры that don't sparkle.
14. Harry Potter.
15. Hermione Granger.
16. Ron Weasley.
17. The *very awesome* Weasleys.
18. Giants.
19. Broomsticks.
20. Triwizard Tournaments.
21. A lightning-shaped scar on the forehead of the main protagonist.
22. Draco Malfoy.
23. Real werewolves.
24. The Marauders.
25. The Order of the Phoenix.
26. Dumbledore's Army.
27. Death Eaters....
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posted by Renesmee_XD
Disclaimer:
The Статья is not mine I only used it cause everyone has always wrote Статьи aganist Twilight how about Harry Potter now
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I finished Чтение Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows a couple of days back. In my view, the book is much еще tightly written than the last two books. And that itself is a relief. Harry Potter, Hermione Granger and Ron Weasley are much better etched out in Deathly Hallows, and there are quite a bit of surprises, disappointments, revelations.

But when someone asked me today what I thought about it, I replied,...
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Okay so I've been hearing a whole load coming from a whole bunch of people, the majority being females, that Robert Pattison is hot. They say this like it is fact and when someone comes along and says he isn't it's like they don't get it.

They asked, "How is he not hot?" This is a еще formal format of putting it, but I got a whole bunch of responses which were very retarded. Well it has to do with personal preference.

So someone's opinion might clash with another person's opinion. Like how Twilight Влюбленные think in Twilight all the Вампиры really are hot. But someone else might come along...
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posted by LilysLittleTwin
Essay Three in my ‘What’s Wrong with Twilight’ или WWT series, is entitled “Bella is Messed Up”. We will be exploring what is wrong with Bella by examining her choices and actions. I may later test her on a psychoanalysis test.

One, she is pathetically whiny. Ты could open any page of a book and find one where she’s whining. TwiFans try to cover this up by pre-bookmark-ing a book at a page with a Описание of the setting (One of the so very few there are). She always begs Edward to turn her into a vampire, even when he blatantly refuses her pleadings every time.

Two, she is too...
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I don't mean any hate towards non of the series.
I just found it seriously immature how both Фаны of the series blame eachother.
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I went through many sites that are Anti-Twilight
and then I started searching for Anti-HP.
Ofcourse what I have saw was mostly twilight hate.
I find it very,very useless too have this 'debate' about Twilight vs Harry Potter.

As i also read most Статьи from this spot I have seen that MANY people here truly HATE twilight.
There's nothing wrong with it.
The only problem is that it is invading all the sites.

Most people from...
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секунда part of my review on both of the Книги this fanspot is about.

Despite most arguments on how different both series are, they do have many shocking resemblances, specially in the bad message part. I hope that after Чтение both of this, Далее time a fanpick Вопрос of "Which is best" pops up, Ты take a минута to consider your answer.

1. If Ты have Друзья или people that care about you, there's no need for Ты to have skills. Just let them sacrifice themselves.
Explanation: Harry Potter prevails against all perils not because he is a skillful wizard или because he is smart. He prevails because...
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I know a lot of people think the Cullen family could beat Harry, Ron and Hermione in a battle. I have read both series, and I realize that the Cullens have super speed and super strength. However, I do not think that the Cullens would stand a chance against the Trio.

Let's look back at the battle history of each...

The Cullens:
- They defeated James in the first book. However, there was only one of him and there were five of them, I believe? So that really isn't saying much.

- They defeated a band of immature Вампиры with no fighting skills in Eclipse. They went in knowing they would win because...
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posted by nati30
 Sorcerer's Stone
Sorcerer's Stone
Ok, a lot of ppl here think Harry Potter is lame and boring and for dorks and is like dungeons and Драконы and its for nerds who like to pretend to be wizards after school. Well, those people have not read the books. Of course, I respect everyone's opinion, even if they think twilight is better. But, dont choose before Ты read both complete books. I mean Twilight is about two tenagers in love, but there's a catch, one of them is a hot and sexy vampire who sometimes has the urge to drink his lover's blood. That sounds cool right? Now, Harry Potter is about a young boy's battle against the evil...
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added by emilyroxx
posted by HopeEve
ok so I found this stupid person listing all the reasons why twilight is better than twilight. so I replied to every single one. and this is her picture:





1. Robert Pattinson, can Ты say HOT? And he's totally sexy when he sparkles!

So? Hotness has absolutely no correlation to Актёрское искусство ability. He was also in Harry Potter first.


2. Taylor Lautner, I mean, have Ты SEEN those muscles?

NOT HOT. Strange nose, closed up eyes and no Актёрское искусство ability. That is just my personal opinion. As I said, hotness has no correlation to Актёрское искусство ability.

3. Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress,...
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