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I'm tired of repeating myself and other HP Фаны repeating themselves constantly so here is my opinion on why Harry Potter is better. So Ты don't think I'm being biased, let me tell you: I read Harry Potter when I was 5 and have been a Фан since (and that shuts down the Комментарий that little kids can't read it by the way) and when I was 13, I read Twilight (before the bandwagon) and loved it. Then just recently, I got off the Twilight High. So I know how it is to have liked Twilight and to like Harry Potter.

First, we can look at the authors. JK Rowling is the epitome of Rag to Riches. She started out in poverty, got a brilliant idea and wrote it on napkins and had a daughter to support. She was rejected multiple times and worked 17 years on the background of characters, places, and names. She did that so well, Ты can picture it perfectly and make a whole series off of another character! Finally with a lot of hard work made it to her status and one of the highest paid women of today's time.

Meyer, on the other hand, had a dream and wrote it down. She spent 3 months on it and it barely got rejected before it became a hit with girls everywhere. Now she has money. It shows. It really shows who put еще time into it.

Now, on the moral of the stories. Harry Potter. Wow, I can write a book on everything someone can learn off of that! First it teaches about Friendship. I think that is the one thing I wish I had was Друзья like the trio. It teaches Ты how real Друзья are always there and should be loyal. It teaches Ты about life and how important it is. How one person can make a change in others. And death. How important death is. How heartbreaking and how to deal with it. After all "To the well organized mind, death is but the Далее great adventure." It shows how important choice is, and how fate and destiny can be changed by one action. If only Voldemort didn't view Harry as the threat, Harry's future could have been changed and Neville would be in his place. Your future isn't always up to you, but Ты have the choice to change it for the better. Harry grew up in the same environment as Tom Riddle, yet Harry chose to Любовь instead of hate. And the act to forgive. Harry forgave Pettigrew for being a traitor, Voldemort for not loving and killing everyone, and others. Do Ты know how much strength that takes to forgive your enemies who are the reason why Ты grew up miserably? It shows what that simple act can be so strong. And prejudice. Remus is the prime example. He's a werewolf and accomplished so much. He had a family, a job, a life, and friends. It's telling people to get over it. People are different. It doesn't mean they're bad!

And most of all. Love. It's not "I need a boyfriend" love. No. It's the type of Любовь that saves a life. Lily gave up her own life to save her son when she knew the chances of him surviving were slim. James gave up his life to give his wife and son a chance. PLUS Lily had a choice to Переместить aside and she didn't. That's Любовь in it's rawest form. There is Любовь of sibling like figures (The Trio), and Любовь for parent-like figures (Sirius, Remus, and the Weasleys). Любовь is even looked down upon (Remus and Tonks) but it was strong and prevailed even into death. And there is unrequited Любовь (Cho Chang and Harry). Stalker Любовь (Romilda Vaine and Lavender Brown.) And boyfriend/girlfriend type Любовь that is еще natural (Harry/Ginny, Hermione/Ron).

In Twilight there is unrequited Любовь and "soul mate" forms. But it's not natural (at all) and it's mainly boyfriend girlfriend type. There is no parental Любовь really shown. Especially not in the лебедь family. The Cullens, yes Ты could say that, but not really. They never really Показать the acts of love.

Another thing Harry Potter improved upon in the "showing" area is good and evil. They Показать Ты how the boundries form. Why the characters become good или why they become evil. How people can change sides. Examples: Dumbledore became good because of guilt of what happened to his sister. Voldemort became evil because he grew up in the orphanage and without love. And he hated his father and being only a half-blood. Pettigrew went to Voldemort's side because he feared for his life. His fear beat his loyalty thus killing James and Lily. Harry Potter blended the line of Good and Evil.

In Twilight, Ты don't get an insight as to why James is the way he is. Ты don't get to see why Carlisle had the control not to eat humans. The REAL reason as to why he chose to go after deer. или why others stayed with them. Ты don't see why people went to the side they did. And if Ты do, it's a really shallow reason. Why did James, Victoria, and Laurant (aka Black Eyed Peas. haha) get together?

Now, let's look at plot. Harry Potter brought on a whole new concept. A simple boy who becomes a chosen one because of an Невероятное accident. The plot had so many hidden plots beneath it like the Hallows that was there the whole time (Invisibility Cloak, Gaunt's Ring, and Elder Wand were all in the Книги before they had significance). And mini plots. Plus each book had a new essence to it. New enemies brought up, new friends, new information, and new areas in the magical world were viewed. Ты GAINED KNOWLEDGE WITH THE TRIO!

In Twilight, Ты gain that Edward is a vampire from the back of the book. It takes out a lot of the suspense. And the plot is basically how Edward and Bella will get together. It wasn't until Breaking Dawn where Meyer tried to throw in a real plot and ruined it terribly.

Now for the realistic appeal. Harry, Ron, and Hermione weren't Друзья right off the bat. Harry and Ron were. But they made fun of Hermione and hated her. It wasn't til the middle of the first book that they befriended her. Even then Ron and Hermione had love/hate friendship going on. And their relationships don't start off like a snap of the finger. It starts as awkward или with hate and then progresses to a crush and love. It took Ron and Hermione 7 years (Harry and Ginny too). And they had others they saw too. Harry had Cho. Ginny had Dean. Ron had Lavender. Hermione had Viktor. Not only that, but with social classes too. The Weasley's are poor, The Dursley's the average family, The Malfoy's are the wealthy. It even has status quo's like Sirius being a criminal. And Remus is a pariah!

And War. It's not just one person или one side that dies. Rowling had everyone going that Harry was going to DIE after the Prophecy was made. Especially when he walked to his death as a sacrifice (another moral and another sign of love). He did live, but look at who died:
Good: Tonks, Remus, Hedwig, Mad-Eye, Sirius, Dumbledore, Snape, Creevy, Fred, George's Ear (there are injuries in war too!), The Longbottoms, The Potters, The Original Order.
Bad: Voldemort, Pettigrew, Snape, Death Eaters, etc.
This makes it realistic. And yes, Hedwig counts. The characters were written so well people CRIED when Hedwig died (I know I did).

Stephenie has Edward and Bella be their first couple and it's right off the bat that they like each other practically. Ты see the same social classes... everywhere in forks. Yes even in small towns, there are social classes. And most of all WAR. или lack there of. Irena dies. That's it. She was leading to a war and backed out too afraid to offend anyone. And if characters died, they weren't written well enough that a lot would cry over them. Pity yes, but not cry. (If a Cullen died. I'd feel bad for their mate).

Feminism. I'm all about the whole "Girls can do whatever guys can do" stuff. Believe me. And Bella лебедь does not cut it. She relies on the men in her life and spends her time at Главная cooking and cleaning. Meyer claims Bella is smart and reads a lot but doesn't Показать it. Bella reads about 1 book the entire time and it's stated once she was in advanced classes. That's not enough.

Instead, look at Hermione, Luna, Ginny, and Tonks.

Hermione: Her strong points are her flaws. She's intelligent. She read Hogwarts: A History before even going to school as a Muggle-born. She also knew spells ont he train when going to her first year. She's loyal and caring. She stuck with Harry in DH even when Ron left because of her Promise. And helped with Neville finding his toad. Yes, she can be bossy with her confidence, but she does have confidence and she is an outcast.

Luna: Marches to her own beat. She doesn't care what others think. She says what she thinks.

Ginny: Isn't mentioned as much, but she sticks up to Harry when he is a git and doesn't go all zombie when he leaves. She starts rebellions at Hogwarts and even goes as far as trying to get Godric Gryffindor's Sword.

Tonks: A female Auror. She backtalks to Moody when no one does that. She has guts and humor and is the sore thumb because she's a Metamorphmagus and uses it to her advantage. The first scene with her shows how positive and how in charge her presence is when she snaps at Moody's behavior and also makes a 'butt' joke.

Even the quotes. Harry Potter Цитаты have so much еще meaning. I could make another Статья for those! One of my meaningful Цитаты happens to be from Dumbledore: "Time is making fools of us again." I Любовь that.

Twilight had "And so the Lion fell in Любовь with the Lamb." It's rather shallow compared to anything Dumbledore has ever said.

And look at the thinking aspect. Harry Potter had to questioning and forming theories the whole time: Who is RLB? What side is Snape?! What would have happened if Harry died in the end? What would the world have been like? I wonder why Kreacher had that necklace? What happened to Fluffy? What's the veil really about? How did Lily and James get together? What about the Marauder era?etc. It's a thought provoker.

Twilight asks Ты what side Bella should choose.

And the audience. Harry Potter reaches out to all ages and genders. Twilight reaches out to preteens and girls.

OK... there were other points I had but forgot while going off about the War aspect. But hopefully Ты all catch my drift. If Ты have any comments, additions, или want to Дебаты please Комментарий или even to give your opinion.

Oh and if that doesn't convince you. One word will Показать how epic Potter is:

Quidditch.
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***NOTE: I did not write this but found it online! No credit to me***

From link

The Twilight vs. Harry Potter Дебаты : Team Potter and Team Twilight take on Вопрос #1

December 24, 12:44 AM
by Michelle Kerns, Book Examiner

If Ты haven't met the members of the Twilight versus Harry Potter Дебаты Team, cast your eye on their qualifications here.
Now, on to the debate! If you've got your own opinions (and what self-respecting Twi-hard или Potter head doesn't?), feel free to leave a Комментарий at the bottom of the page. However, let's remember we are civilized witches, wizards, vampires, and werewolves...
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posted by mariella721
Okay guys, I know everyone's got their own opinion and not everyone has the RIGHT opinion, but as a Twilight fan, can one of Ты Potter Фаны explain what Ты guys see in Harry Potter? Honestly, I haven't read all the books, but I've seen all the Фильмы and they just don't make any sense. And another thing, the plot is bland and there's no real depth to it, like in Twilight. Harry Potter, also has no Любовь in it, which makes for a boring story. Anyways, I just wanted to know what Ты crazies see in those Книги and stuff...

Okay...
See ya :D

Mariella
xxx
1. its just all thrown together and the Фильмы leave out way to much.
2. it has no meaning just a girl falls in Любовь then is a vampire the end.
3. is just plain stupid.simple as that
4. theres nothing to figure out. its to predictable.
5. it dosent have enough back story which goes back to # 1
6.and stephine myer wants to keep all the good players while j.k. isnt afraid to for the sake of the book
7.why doesnt she mentention why bellas parent got seperated which geos back to #4
8. it has no plot
9. the problem is the same all the way throughout the sires as h.p. faces many problems.
10.its down right boring hmm lets read the same boring thing over and over! yea! NOT!
TEN REASONS TWILIGHT IS HORRIBLE!!!!
posted by RavenclawRocks
Before Ты all come out with pitchforks and guns, I'd just like to say this is my opinion.

1, Half of the Фаны only like Twilight, because they think Rob/Taylor is hot.

2, I can't argue about the plot because there isn't one.

3, Bella has no personaility.

4, Edward is just plain creepy.

5, Bella always needs a man in her life. When Edward leaves she needs Jacob. This is really stupid.


6,Bella wouldn't even look at Edward if he wasn't hot.

7, Edward wouldn't look at Bella if she didn't smell good.

8, It gives a bad message. Like kill yourself when your sparkly boyfriend is around. или there is no point in being happy unless Ты have a boyfriend. или it's ok to ditch your Друзья to дата a super hot vampire.

9,Meyer constantly repeats the same words to tell us how hot Edward is. This gets boring after two pages.

10, The actors suck.


There,ten reasons. Feel free to add on more.
posted by i-am-mariella
I’ve seen articles, like bri-marie’s, comparing Bella, Twilight’s “heroine” to the girls and female role Модели of the Harry Potter Книги like Hermione and Ginny. I agree with them whole-heartedly and I am happy to follow in the footsteps of strong women from Harry Potter – like Ginny, who is fierce and pretty bad-ass and just в общем и целом, общая a strong female, and Hermione, who is studious and smart and witty and the boys often rely on her skills and “genius.” Because let’s face it – and Ron says it himself – where would they be without Hermione?
So I wanted to make my own because...
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"This Kiss between Hermione and Ron is highly anticipated, it's been building up for eight films now. And Harry Potter is not Twilight, Ты know; we're not selling sex." - Emma Watson

If Ты think Emma Watson is stupid for quoting this, Ты are outta your mind. Ты think Twilight's not selling sex? Irony. Irony how some twi-hards reason out "BECAUSE EDWARD CULLEN IS SO SEXY!!!" if asked why Twilight is better than Harry Potter.

For me, Twilight is just Популярное 'cause it has sex appeal. Wait for several years, no one will be talking about Twilight anymore.. Harry Potter won't be talked about that much but it will never be forgotten.In my case, I know Harry Potter will be a future classic.

Twilight Фаны go ahead and attack me, whenever you're ready.
Obviously, this spot is about debating Harry Potter and Twilight, and I realised I've never written an article, so I decided to put down all my reasons for Harry Potter being better than Twilight.

Firstly, the 'love' in Twilight is not love. It is over powered lust. To my memory, Edwrad and Bella never have a conversation about from who loves the other more. Edward likes Bella because she smells good, Bella likes Edward because he's 'handsome' (which can't even be proven, he's a book character, we never see him).

The Любовь in Harry Potter is shown as an amazing, all powerful thing that can sace...
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posted by harrypotterbest
Harry woke up the Далее morning with a feeling as though there was a heavy block in his stomach. He got ready and dressed and went downstairs. Ginny was already at the table, waiting for him. She smiled nervously at him, and he сказал(-а) to her ‘Don’t worry; compared to what we’ve been through, this is practice.’
Ginny laughed, and Harry felt pleased. They got their children ready, and dropped them off at the wizard день care, as every adult wizard would be in the battle.
Harry and Ginny apparated with Ron and Hermione to the Cullen backyard, where the battle would commence. When they got...
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posted by ABDCFan-
'Good Morning Voldemort' - The HP Version on 'Good Morning Baltimore', from the Musical, Hairspray.

Oh, oh, oh
Woke up today
Feeling the way i always do
Oh, oh, oh
Hungry for Magic
That i can't eat
Then i hear that beat
That rhythm of Voldie
Starts calling me down
It's like a message from
High above
Oh, oh, oh
Pulling me out
To the smiles and the
Streets that i love

Good morning Voldemort!
Every day's like an evil encore
Every night is a fantasy
Every sound's like a death to me!

Good morning Voldemort!
And some день when i take to the floor
The world's gonna wake up and see
Voldemort and me!

Oh, oh, oh
Look at my wand...
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posted by MissKnowItAll
I have read a lot of Статьи etc like this, but I thought I would write m own Просмотры down.

One thing I have heard about Twilight being better is that SMeyer is a better writer. I ask you, how on earth is SMeyer a better writer.

Take this sentence from New Moon:

'Suddenly, it(the bike) looked intimidating, frightening, as I realised I would soon be astride it.'

How does that flow as a sentence? It has two separate realisations together in one sentence. I found it awkward to read.

SMeyer doesn’t make us connect with her characters. She doesn’t describe their feeling well at all. She is not a good...
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So I surfing the web when I ran into one of the pages from this site. It was a Вопрос asking which would Ты rather be, a vampire или a wizard? I immediately answered wizard and I added 3 quick reasons why. That was several months назад and now I wondered if my answer was reasonable enough. I also read other people's reason and I admit some of them sounded very childish and naive.

Now I will start by defining the two by their origins. Вампиры and wizards, because that was the question. Not Twilight Вампиры или HP Wizards, but since that Опрос was under those topics I'm guessing I will talk...
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posted by roobiip
My Вопрос is Is anyone alse tired of this "HP vs Twilight" things??
Because it is driving me crazy..

First of all I need to say I Любовь THEM BOTH so much!! I think HP was extremely original I grew up with it and I looove it.. and Twilight is so romantic, I mean, could they be еще crazy about each other?? (NOPE!!), and I looove it too!! (L) =]

However one thing is true:
Most twilight Фаны ARE crazy, annoying, funny, scary, etc.. being one I talked to many and some were really funny (they actually believed they were going to marry Edward) and others really scared me (because I loved HP too they...
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posted by harrypotterbest
Harry and his friend entered the hotel in high spirits. Hermione, Ron, and Ginny were already there, and one look told them they had been very worried. Ginny glanced at Harry’s wide smile and the newcomer, and said, very icily, “Who is she?” to Harry.
Harry grinned even wider, and J K smiled. “This, Ginny, is the one and only J K Rowling!” He saw their looks of astonishment. “You know,” he added, “she wrote our books!”
“Oh,” сказал(-а) Ginny, sounding rather relieved. Ron laughed.
Hermione looked surprised, but knowing as to why he had brought J K.
“And why did Ты bring...
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posted by TeamSiriusBlack
Luna looked back and shouted, “EXPELLIARMUS!”
The Death Eater’s wand flew out of his hand.
“Nice shot!” Neville said, looking at her impressed. Luna beamed brightly, as the two continued to run. They both slowed as they neared a room filled with smoke. Neville ran in first and Luna followed close behind. They heard shouts coming from every direction.
“CRUCIO!” There was a scream of agony.
“STUPEFY!”
“AVADA KEDAVRA!”
The last spell seemed closer and both ducked at the same time. They heard a thud as a body hit the floor. Luna ran over there, despite the spells flying everywhere....
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